Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sebastian Joffre


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:59, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Sebastian Joffre

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 20:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Football. Joeykai (talk) 20:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bolivia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:27, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:20, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, already has adequate sourcing on page, and tons of coverage online.--Ortizesp (talk) 17:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per Ortizesp. Young player with ongoing career with fully pro Belgian second tier team who has already played for Premier League team Crystal Palace and one of most well known Brazilian teams (Botafogo) and the fully pro American third tier and one of few Bolivians playing in Europe. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 21:52, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The above comment makes no reference to WP:GNG, which is the reason why this was sent to AfD. Nobody is arguing that he hasn't played professionally or that he isn't young with an ongoing career Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I added many sources to the article. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 18:55, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 20:54, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Very weak keep I am leaning to a very weak keep, there is coverage there per the sources, however I could easily say delete as he really doesn't have many games under his belt. Some cites don't work. #4 Collier Sports Insider article doesn't appear to work for me. Overall just edging it at the moment, if his career was over already I would say delete. Regards. Govvy (talk) 11:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG with a lack of independent significant coverage. Dougal18 (talk) 12:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If the Collier source can be saved and reviewed, that might be enough (along with the podcast). If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:56, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - He was fairly covered.KatoKungLee (talk) 22:41, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sources currently on the page (including those added by Das osmnezz).  Frank  Anchor  04:40, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. The first two Orlando City SC refs are dead links, but would be non-independent regardless, ❌. is a high school interview in local news, clearly fails YOUNGATH, ❌. The Collier Sports Insider appears to be a defunct small-town (it had an article on Collier County Special Olympics bocce ball competition's partnership with the Naples Italian American Foundation...) newsletter covering Collier County sports that is extremely unlikely to be RS let alone pass YOUNGATH, ❌.  is a high school sports match recap, ❌.   is another routine, local high school football match recap, ❌.  is an announcement by EFSC Titans, ❌.  is a non-independent database entry, ❌.  is another OCSC piece, ❌.  is a trivial mention, ❌.  is a release from CPFC, ❌.  is a podcast interview by some random soccer player investment fund guy: clearly SPS, non-independent, and primary, ❌.  is a routine transactional announcement, ❌.  is another routine transactional announcement, ❌. JoelleJay (talk) 23:46, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - It is also important to mention that the article has been expanded. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 01:16, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:TOOSOON as the existing coverage is routine or trivial in nature, or not independent of the subject. He's played a handful of games at club level so far, so maybe in the future he will play regularly and then generate coverage sufficient to meet our guidelines. Jogurney (talk) 14:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete The subject lacks the significant coverage to pass WP:GNG. Alvaldi (talk) 19:38, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - Naples News is pretty good but I'm not convinced by the rest. The podcast doesn't mean much in terms of notability. Heck, even I am part of a football podcast and wouldn't even dream of using it as a source on here! Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:10, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Due to source analysis by JoelleJay. MrsSnoozyTurtle 04:43, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with others about User:JoelleJay's (as usual) common sense source assessment. Keep assertions above are not supported by the sources applied or the reasonable BEFORE I performed. The subject exists, but nothing approaching direct detailing in significant coverage in independent reliable sources has been shown or found. This is a BLP and we shouldn't consider routine sports results as compelling reason for notability. BusterD (talk) 09:21, 13 March 2023 (UTC)


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