Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sebastian Plewinski


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 17:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Sebastian Plewinski

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Prod'd and prod removed. Ed Johnson in his prod noted "Article has no reliable sources, such as coverage in newspapers, magazines or books. He was a finalist at the national pre-selection for the Eurovision Song Contest, but that is unlikely to satisfy WP:MUSIC, which is quite demanding." I agree with this.

Now people will look and go "but what about all of those impressive festival awards!" as best I can determine those are accredited by a (for wont of a better word) a "festival mill". There is an american company called FIDOF - you sent them a cheque and hey presto you are running an "international festival" - all of his awards seems to directly or indirectly related to those non-notable "send me some cash" festivals - I can't even determine if some of those festival even ran. None of them are notable to our standards as best as I can determine. Cameron Scott (talk) 16:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - My reason for deletion has already been summarized above, but I'd also note that winning a contest or award on which Wikipedia has no article isn't very persuasive. WP:MUSIC sets out conventional milestones for recognizing performers, and I think they work, when they are routinely followed. We see no sources commenting on this performer, so we have little to work with. The performer's own website doesn't appear to list any press coverage. There is an article on him in the Polish Wikipedia, but it was only just created, and its sourcing is just as bad. EdJohnston (talk) 18:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Also, the username of author, the nature of the article, and repeated removal of the AfD template by Polish-registered IPs with no other edits, suggest a promotional agenda and a possible COI. That's not itself reason for deletion, but it causes one to look extra hard at the evidence for notability, and I don't think this reaches the standard required by WP:MUSIC. JohnCD (talk) 19:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Ed. Solid notability not established. Dayewalker (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There are some news articles on Google News (if you use the appropriate alphabets), but all but one are in Polish or Russian, so I can't tell what they say. That one, from Belorusskie Novosti, is a brief mention about a third-place finish in one of the festivals mentioned in the article. No AMG profile for Mr. Plewinski, which isn't necessarily a determining factor in and of itself. I'm going to have to abstain, since I'm not really qualified to judge this one, and the evidence isn't clear. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 21:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions.   —Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable as far as I know, concur with reasoning of nominator. --Ouro (blah blah) 07:50, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - spam, self-promotion, no references, fails WP:BIO, etc. - Biruitorul Talk 18:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


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