Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sebastiano Nicola Buonaparte


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The result was delete. This is a rare case in which I must disregard most opinions because they do not address a core policy issue raised in the nomination: verifiability. As the nomination points out, the content is sourced only to http://genealogy.euweb.cz, an evidently self-published and therefore unreliable website. Almost all "keep" opinions make notability arguments, but do not address (let alone rebut) the verifiability problem, which as a core policy issue must take absolute precedence. This does not preclude a properly sourced recreation.  Sandstein  07:43, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Sebastiano Nicola Buonaparte

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First off, I did a source search and the sources are just as weak as found her, genealogy related website that are not reliable sources. They may be a way at times to find primary sources, but we do not build articles on primary sources, but on secondary ones. The only claim to notability is being part of the council of Ajaccio. There is no indication this is a postion of a level that would make him default notable. He really is mainly notable as an ancestor of Napoleon Bonaparte, but that is not grounds for inclusion. John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:56, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Dubious of notability -- I see very little that is notable in this article; it is mostly genealogy, with slight notability inherited from a descendant. Corsica in his time was (I think) a possession of Genoa.  Colonel Commander is probably not a high enough rank, unless Genoa had very few regiments.  Equally it is not clear to me whether the Council of Ajaccio governed a city (in which case he was a local councillor and NN) or the island, in which case he might be notable.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:19, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  19:52, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Obviously notable as an ancestor of the patrilineal Bonaparte line... see WP:NOTABILITY KingAntenor (talk) 06:36, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Pls see below -- Original comment: an unsourced essay and no indications of notability apart from a remote descendant. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep – Needs improvement, but it's a reasonable start, and improvements won't happen if it's deleted. Notability is more than sufficient as great-great grandfather of Napoleon. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 11:39, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Tentative Keep -- Google books returns results for "Sebastiano Buonaparte" (without Nicola). If this is the same person, then it may be possible to source this. K.e.coffman (talk) 20:38, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Fine for a genealogy site, but not enough here for WP:GNG. OhNo itsJamie Talk 14:37, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP is not a geneology site, but we do keep the genealogy of royal families, which is what the Buonapartes became.  DGG ( talk ) 00:19, 23 September 2016 (UTC)


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