Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Second American Revolution (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  01:12, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Second American Revolution
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A common bit of hyperbole, which makes the article more or less a list of such usage. It's not as bad as Second American Civil War was before it was redirected here, but since both suffer from defect that neither event has happened; the various usages of both jump between alarmism, overstatement, and failed aspirations, but there's no common subject. And with that, I do not think it is appropriate simply to catalogue a figure of speech. Mangoe (talk) 02:31, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - WP:INDISCRIMINATE hodgepodge. From "Find sources" on the deletion notice: "Second American Revolution" happened when Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. It's also Pres. Reagan's tax plan. Or it was the politics of entertainer Paul Robeson, the women's movement and/or the civil rights of the 1960's, etc. etc. John and Yoko are on the list, as is Rosanne Barr. The other article recently deleted was focused on the January 6 continuing news items. This one has had 186 individual editors adding their perspectives. — Maile (talk) 03:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military,  and United States of America. Skynxnex (talk) 14:49, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: It's impossible for the concept to meet GNG because it's just a slogan with no consistent use across different contexts. As Maile said, the article is just a pile of different incidents that were described as a second American Revolution, with nothing connecting them but WP:OR. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 17:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: Does not meet WP:GNG and is simply a list of events which have no tangible connection to each other. Let'srun (talk) 18:06, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete non-encyclopaedic aggregation of fringe theories that don't satisfy WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 04:10, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: For a moment I thought we should turn it into a disambiguation page like Second War of Independence, but then I checked potential link target pages and found that the term "Second American Revolution" doesn't occur at all in War of 1812 and 1985 State of the Union Address, and only in the title of a reference in American Civil War. Looks like the term is rarely used in relation to these events. — Chrisahn (talk) 21:53, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:NOTNEO: Some neologisms can be in frequent use, and it may be possible to pull together many facts about a particular term and show evidence of its usage on the Internet or in larger society. To support an article about a particular term or concept, we must cite what reliable secondary sources say the term or concept, not just sources that the term.  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  23:46, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Most events on the list are not at all related. The use of this term in these sources is meant to be a hyperbole for most of the time, serious or not, and doesn't mean anything other than that. I don't see the article passing WP:GNG because of this. MarioJump83 (talk) 08:20, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete: Per - WP:CRYSTAL محرر البوق (talk) 21:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


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