Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Second Child of Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:34, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Second Child of Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia

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It is WP:TOO SOON. When the child is named an article can be created under that name, if notable. Lineslarge (talk) 10:18, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Agree with Lineslarge that this is WP:TOOSOON. Even after the child is named it will still likely be WP:TOOSOON. This could all be mentioned in his/her parent's articles. -- Pure RED &#124; talk to me  &#124; 11:18, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, but move and improve In line with what was done for his older brother and cousins, whose pages were created after the birth (as "Prince N., Duke of X") and the pages were then renamed when the names and dukedom were announced. There is no question about notability, he is in line for the Swedish throne. --Marbe166 (talk) 11:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:TOOSOON.  red dogsix (talk) 14:54, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:27, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:27, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

This page should not be deleted! The child is in line to the Swedish throne, and that shows its importance. The name does not matter. We will know in two days anyways. I remember that Alexander had a page and we didn't even know his name yet. Same thing for Charlotte, but when Kate was pregnant? What is wrong this time? I do not see anything wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.188.238.170 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 1 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep - much as I am personally against the monarchy, a person who is in the line of succession to the throne is de facto notable. He has now been named, his name and dukedom have been made official, and the article has been moved to the relevant title, so I don't see how WP:TOOSOON can apply at this point. (To be honest, once the child was born he or she would have been notable, so I don't quite see the point of the nomination to begin with. If the naming was the problem, surely all the royal sprogs are named within a couple of days?) --bonadea contributions talk 10:10, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep The child is clearly notable now, his official title has been confirmed. All other children of the Swedish royal family have their own articles. Shellwood (talk) 10:54, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I try to make something even out of articles such as this, but it's hopeless. The subject is not notable for anything but being distantly in line to the throne. That much fits into a single sentence in the articles about his parents. The subject is now 4 days old and we cannot expect him to become notable in the next two decades. He is not expected to become a monarch. He is not expected to take on any official role (let alone have one now). Take a look at what the article about his brother looks like 1 year after it was created. Nothing biographical but birth and christening. Can we be objective and reasonable for once? Surtsicna (talk) 12:04, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep – per Shellwood. HandsomeFella (talk) 12:18, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Second Child of Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia as per my original nomination. It is now a redirect that no one will ever use. Keep the page it redirects to, Prince Gabriel, Duke of Dalarna. It seems the afd tag moved with the page move, which would not have been my intent. Lineslarge (talk) 22:18, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, per bonadea. No opinion on deleting or keeping the redirect. /Julle (talk) 01:29, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep the article Prince Gabriel, Duke of Dalarna. His name was announced yesterday and I think that he is notable as a member of a reigning royal family. --Editor FIN (talk) 11:25, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep His named was announced on September 4, and as we already have so many articles about minor royals I can't find a solid reason to vote in favor of the main article's deletion. This "redirect", however, can be deleted as the child has a name now. Keivan.f  Talk 11:42, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - name has been announced. He is in the succession order now. Per WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 15:16, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * - Page has been moved to Prince Gabriel, Duke of Dalarna. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:33, 8 September 2017 (UTC)


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