Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Second Chinatown (disambiguation)


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The result was   delete. Secret account 21:47, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Second Chinatown (disambiguation)

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There is no topic here beyond what can be easily covered in the Chinatown article. If there was a phenomenon called "second Chinatown" then where are the books, papers and articles about it? The various instances of "second Chinatown" that I have found in book sources are mentioned in passing only; it is just as often chronological than geographical. (This article assumes only geographical.) Any city that can boast two Chinatowns, one main/original and one secondary/later one, can be described in the Chinatown article. Binksternet (talk) 13:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note Articles for deletion/Third Chinatown (disambiguation). Binksternet (talk) 03:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP is not a dictionary and not a directory.  A Chinatown is a definable thing but there is not really such a thing as a second Chinatown.  As both the article and this AfD nomination make clear it is an expression that is used in various ways in different places.  Also WP is not a directory of Chinese neighborhoods, as useful as that could be to some people.  Including me if I was looking for an Asian grocery store. Borock (talk) 15:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a disam page, being a guide to articles on notable neighborhoods. If the information that they are a secondary Chinatown is in that article, that's reason for inclusion I think there is probably also room for an actual article on the geographic phenomenon, and there are probably sources, but that's not what we are discussing. &#39;DGG (at NYPL) (talk) 19:19, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. This isn't a proper dab page. The only entry that I can see qualifying is Clement Street Chinatown, San Francisco. The term isn't even mentioned in most of the other linked articles, the remainder using "second" (as opposed to "Second") as a normal adjective. Also delete Third Chinatown (disambiguation). Clarityfiend (talk) 22:33, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:25, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete: not a useful dab page. We don't need this, nor "Fourth Chinatown", nor "17th Chinatown"... Pam  D  08:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - as an "ignore all rules" disambiguation page. Although none of the linked articles have the name "Second Chinatown" to disambiguate, there entries are all secondary Chinatowns.  This page serves as a navigation aid for readers who may be looking for an article on the second Chinatown in some city but do not know the name.  As such Wikipedia is improved by providing this navigation aid. -- Whpq (talk) 14:52, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment As someone who grew up in the San Francisco area and knows something of the history of San Francisco Chinatown I question not only this article but the article Chinatown itself. I don't think you can lump historic Chinatowns with mere neighborhoods with lots of Chinese families or even shopping areas where Chinese owned and/or themed businesses benefit by Colocation (business).  The Chinatown article says almost nothing about the extreme discrimination Chinese people faced. Borock (talk) 17:42, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.