Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Second NHL team in Toronto


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete as speculation and strung together original synthesis. Half essay, half gossip, and very little encyclopedia article. There's useful material which may belong in History of the Toronto Maple Leafs, so I can make the text available to people who want it.-Wafulz 18:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Second NHL team in Toronto

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Article fails WP:CBALL Smashville 03:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep perhaps it should be renamed Proposed Second NHL team in Toronto, but the subject is an interesting one. Sasha Callahan 03:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't think it quite qualifies as crystal-balling, since there's verifiable historical information here.  Ford MF 05:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, but rename "Proposed second NHL team in southern Ontario". None of the references mention Toronto as a possible site (and it would be a total fantasy to think that it could happen or that anybody is seriously trying for it). Clarityfiend 05:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Although this is a somewhat interesting article, and league decisions on actual awards of expansion franchises are notable (consisting of a few winners and many losers), THIS is no more notable than any other North American city hoping for an expansion franchise from the NHL, nor from the NFL, the NBA or MLB. As the article points out, the NHL has no plans to expand at this time so this qualifies as nothing more than a dream.  Smashville is right, this is what they call crystal-balling.  I encourage the author to look for other places to merge an abridged version.  Mandsford 15:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete This is almost a long strung news story and is "not encyclopedic".  We should not be writing about every city's attempt to get a pro franchise.   Corpx 03:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The article should not be deleted under WP:CRYSTAL because despite the name, the article does relatively little to speculate. Instead, the article talks about discussions of a second team. The issue here is notability. Calgary 03:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete We have a candidate running for local office, but no date for an election. Would you keep that? Triple3D 14:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Citi Cat   ♫  04:12, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - A article about some speculative discussions of bringing a second team without any specificic agreement done already is incredibly volatile, just ask yourselves what would happen with it if the discussions fall? -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  04:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * In that event: The article could "end" with something like "however in 20XX discussions broke down and the NHL announced that there never would be another NHL team in Toronto, and in fact, they were awarding a team to Lower East Tiffburg, this team to replace the Maple Leafs because they were fed up with the idea" .  Just an idea anyway.  FrozenPurpleCube 05:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Maybe we should just wait and see what happens. Cheers,  Je tL ov e r (talk) 05:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, great news! The NHL awarded Toronto a second franchise, to play all its home games just south of Southern Ontario, on the Buffalo side, and it will be called the Sabres. Good thing we waited.  Mandsford 00:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, since I already closed it anyway - full speculation.  Giggy  Talk 22:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge to an article discussing the history and such NHL Expansion plans. Possibly including contraction as well.  List of defunct NHL teams and the like really aren't adequate.  FrozenPurpleCube 05:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.