Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secret 1st Japan Tour


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The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 00:27, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Secret 1st Japan Tour

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The only sourcing here relates to individual shows/factoids; there is no general, in-depth discussion in reliable sources of the tour as a whole, as is required by WP:NTOUR--there are, actually, no reliable references in this article at all. Drmies (talk) 02:05, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:16, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:17, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Rcsprinter123    (announce)  @ 14:15, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

I disagree. Gaon, 10 Asia News, and Sony Music are reliable sources for the tour. The tour happened, and it even if it was not as popular as major K-Pop groups, I would not dismiss the article and consider it for deletion. Mazic (talk) 02:54, 30 December 2014 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete. This was a Japan tour, so was there any independent, significant coverage of it in Japan? That's what should really matter; the K-pop gossip news/PR-machine is hardly relevant.  My gut tells me there was not, as the Zepp venues are pretty small and none of Secret's releases in Japan have sold particularly well.  The Sony Music reference is the artist's own official website and as such is not independent coverage.  The rest are typical K-media puffery.  One of the sources is about one of the members becoming like a Korean Beyonce after losing weight - that is not serious journalism in any sense and isn't even real information, just (again) PR fluff.  10 Asia News is a site specifically designed to promote kpop - their interviews are fine but PR stuff is not reliable or independent.  Unless there was significant (not a one-off announcement) coverage of this in Japan, this should be deleted.  The tour can be mentioned in the main Secret article. Shinyang-i (talk) 01:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 13:08, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete This is one of several articles made about Korean bands touring Japan for no apparent reason. Claim to notability seems nonexistent. Shii (tock) 13:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
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