Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secret and special weapons in Shōwa Japan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  21:36, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Secret and special weapons in Shōwa Japan

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Editorial article for an arbitrary time period, currently without any inline references. Any salvageable content could be moved to List of Japanese aircraft in use during the Second Sino-Japanese War, List of Japanese infantry weapons used in the Second-Sino Japanese War, List of Japanese military equipment of World War II, etc. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 10:36, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 11:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 11:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 11:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Note - the time period chosen is far from arbitrary - many sources treat 1937-45 Japan - years in which Japan was in a state of warfare - as one period in terms of the Japanese military and weapons.Icewhiz (talk) 12:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - appears to be original research without authoritative references.--Rpclod (talk) 13:25, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: Well, vague terms like "editorial" don't indicate grounds for deletion: nor does having the references in a list of links at the end rather than inline, however weak and defective we may think that practice is. The topic of Secret Weapons in World War Two Japan has formed the subject of an "authoritative" book (Secret Weapons and World War II: Japan in the Shadow of Big Science. By Walter E. Grunden (Lawrence, University Press of Kansas, 2005) 335 pp.) (another review) so there is little question that the topic is notable. Other sources include Business Insider, Brian J. Ford Secret Weapons. The article is mainly lists, again not a matter for AfD. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:46, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The issue is whether "Secret and special weapons in Shōwa Japan" is a notable topic, not whether a book on a similar topic has been published. If you could show that multiple authoritative books have been written regarding "Secret and special weapons in Shōwa Japan", they should be referenced in the article and that would be a different story.  Also some objective definitions of "secret" and "special" are needed so it is clear why items are included or not.--Rpclod (talk) 17:04, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Why is the Zero listed as a secret weapon? This thing is a hodgepodge list of Japanese equipment with one reference that's gone dead.-- Georgia Army Vet  Contribs  Talk  17:32, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Because it was used as a "Special Weapon", i.e. kamikaze. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:45, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. We don't keep a wall of fame for "shining examples of WP:SYNTH, WP:OR and WP:NOT", and since that's what this is (substitute 'steaming pile' for 'shining example' to taste), there's no reason for this to be anything other than deleted. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:45, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This is a collection of random stuff, based around the mistaken notion that because the development of military equipment during wartime isn't public it's somehow "secret". We have various articles on Japanese military equipment that cover the conventional weapons in a much more meaningful and comprehensive way, and the Japan and weapons of mass destruction covers the non-conventional weapons. From looking at the article's history, it's one of the last survivors from the mid-2000s when IP editors created a bunch of similar weird articles on the Japanese military during the World War II era (random lists of people, units, etc), so it's well past time for this one to also go. Nick-D (talk) 21:50, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


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