Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secret detention centers of SBU


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Szzuk (talk) 12:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Secret detention centers of SBU

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An original research based on yellow journalism. There're no reliable secondary sources that could confirm existence of this kind of detention centers. Piramidion 08:34, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
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The UN report documents hundreds of cases of illegal detention, torture and ill-treatment of detainees — both by pro-Russian armed groups and by government agencies. It draws attention to prisoner abuse and murders by pro-Russian rebel groups, but also exposes the scale and brutality of Ukraine’s government-backed torture programme for the first time, as well as the existence of five secret government detention centres.
 * Keep – I consider the United Nations to be a reliable source, and a UN report directly states that such detention centers exist as per The Times article (underline emphasis mine):
 * Additional sources exist that verify the secret detention facilities, such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. As such, this certainly is not original research. North America1000 10:28, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep - plenty of notable and reliable sources. Per WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 15:41, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: a notable controversy. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:49, 14 September 2018 (UTC) See for exampe: Kyiv Post; Human Rights Watch; Amnesty International, such as here:
 * The release comes after Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch exposed the use of torture and secret detention by both Ukrainian authorities and pro-Russian separatists during the conflict in eastern Ukraine in a joint report “‘You Don’t Exist.’ Arbitrary Detentions, Enforced Disappearances, and Torture in Eastern Ukraine” published on 21 July.
 * K.e.coffman (talk) 00:49, 14 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Clearly notable and sourced. However, there may be scope for a merge/expansion (the current article seems to focus on use of the detention centers for the Ukraine/proxy-Russia conflict) to cover detention by the SBU more broadly (perhaps in SBU) - or - alternatively - changing the title of this article.Icewhiz (talk) 10:07, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are a lot of exhaustive sources including UN reports. I'm going to add a few more ones to expand the article, for example The Telegraph and so on. Thanks. --Axel Staxel (talk) 22:40, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Pretty clear GNG pass from sources showing in the article. Carrite (talk) 06:37, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


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