Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secular Democratic Party (Iran)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The "delete" arguments are stronger. Our notability guidelines do not make an exception for political parties. The need for reliable sources is based in WP:V, a core policy.  Sandstein  13:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Secular Democratic Party (Iran)

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Fails to meet Notability (organizations and companies) criteria. Pahlevun (talk) 16:37, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 16:17, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 16:17, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 16:17, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2019 February 12.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Offline 19:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep- I favor keeping articles on all political parties of confirmed existence, their leaders, and their youth sections regardless of size or ideology. This is the sort of material our readers have a right to expect will be covered n a comprehensive encyclopedia. If you want to call this "Keep per the policy of Ignore All Rules," that is fine with me. Carrite (talk) 15:27, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 23:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Verifiable political party.  Political parties are not held to WP:CORP.  Sources exist:
 * https://fa.isdparty.org/index.php/articles/4-roham cache
 * https://iranintl.com/en/iran/secular-democratic-congress-discussions-about-replacing-islamic-republic
 * --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete I presume this article needs sufficient notability by citing (more) reliable secondary sources. Ali Ahwazi (talk) 07:30, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Obviously I don’t know one word of Persian, but from what I could decipher with translations is that this party doesn’t have general notability. I can’t find one legitimate news source for it. Trillfendi (talk) 04:05, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Of the two refs in the article, one is broken and the other looks primary.  Of 's two refs, the first is broken (as well as the cache), while the second is the only secondary source that I can find to prove the existance of this party IranIntl.com.  I scanned the founder, Esmail Nooriala, who seems more notable (he seems to have a WP page on Iran-WP), but I could not find any other sources on him linking him to this party (which is odd). Per Keeps above, if existance of a Party is sufficient, then it is a Keep; however if they need elements of GNG, then it would be a delete. Britishfinance (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. I haven't researched this enough to form an opinion, other than to note two things regarding SmokeyJoe's comment:
 * WP:ORG does cover political parties. From the second paragraph, Simply stated ... this includes ... political parties.
 * Archive.org has a copy of the fa.isdparty.org source: https://web.archive.org/web/20171116091919/https://fa.isdparty.org/index.php/articles/4-roham
 * -- RoySmith (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:48, 27 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.