Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sedna (database)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Excluding the sock/meatpuppets and weak "keep" arguements, consensus is to delete. X clamation point  18:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Sedna (database)

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More than a year after previous AfD, still a marketese article with no notability indicated with reliable published secondary sources. -- Jeandré, 2008-11-02t08:41z 08:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - I'm for keeping information about this open source database. I wondered what could be wrong in such information, which rule of Wikipedia might be violated. Maybe advertising? But there are commercial products in Wikipedia, like Microsoft Windows for example or very expensive Visual Studio (and other). Let's be honest... Or maybe this project is too small or insignificant to be listed by Wikipedia? But again, there's an article on JaxB technology, Xalan or XPath... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.225.156.156 (talk) 14:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Reads like an ad and doesn't seem notable. Ancemy (talk) 00:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Well written and all, but no references.  ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Sedna is one of the three most famous open source XML databases (others are eXist and Berkeley DB XML), developed for many years. It has quite large and active open source community (see statistics on Sedna's open mail list). Instead of deleting the article it might be a good idea to add an article on Berkeley DB XML. MaximGr —Preceding undated comment was added at 08:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC).
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 * Keep - What Wikipedia rule has been violated exactly?, Sedna is a production-ready XML Database with a large user base. As for the article appearing to read as an advertisement what are you supposed to do when describing it other than stating its features, how it works and how it is different from other XML Databases? Sedna is in the top 3 known Open Source XML Databases available, eXist and Berkeley DB XML being the other two, not only is there a large development team continually working on Sedna, there is a community working on various contributions and APIs for it, how anyone could think this open source project is insignificant I don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.153.251.65 (talk) 11:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Sedna is quite well known inside scientific community. There is a bunch of research papers where Sedna was used. For example, for storing molecular pathways (paper), geospatial data ( paper), Sedna usage for Grids ( paper, another one), musicological analysis ( paper), Sedna usage for linguistic corpus ( paper).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.149.198.171 (talk) 11:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 04:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment No one is opposed to keeping the article if references are included to newspaper or magazine articles discussing the topic. But no one has offered to make this effort, so my delete vote remains unchanged.  Maybe after it's deleted someone will write it and source it properly. ChildofMidnight (talk) 08:30, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Spam. A search on google news shows that little has been written about the product (mostly trivial mentions or press releases).  Fails the WP:N notability guidelines. Themfromspace (talk) 09:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 *  Very weak keep. Make that no google news hits. Sedna happens to be (1) the codename of a (different) Microsoft database product, (2) the codename of a SAN switch from Sun Microsystems , and (3) the name of 90377_Sedna. That account for all google news hits. OTOH, this a database developed in (Russian) academia, so there are number of academic papers about Senda the XML database, (links to conference proceedings via google books) paper by authors (note that this a is a peer-reviewed paper, not self-published). It is used/mentioned by number of other paper citeseerx search, google scholar. Most are other papers by the same authors. Borderline for inclusion. VG &#x260E; 03:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: there's a side by side comparison of several native XML databases, including Sedna, written as BSci graduation project (mandatory in Eastern Europe universities); this is actually linked in the article. VG &#x260E; 03:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

198.185.18.207 (talk) 22:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC) SGS
 * Keep - I am a graduate student who's using Sedna for a Masters Project. Please keep this wiki page on Sedna alive. In fact, more information about Sedna would be useful.
 * Keep - This article informed me of an implementation I hadn't known existed, making it useful to the community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ErickVonS (talk • contribs) 16:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.