Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Segun Toyin Dawodu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Article can be re-nominated at any time. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Segun Toyin Dawodu

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Something just doesn't feel right about this article. Although it contains many referenced claims, many of these are from primary sources. Also, none of the claims, independently, make him notable (IMHO). I would value people's opinion on this article. — Fly by Night  ( talk )  22:09, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - article fails to establish WP:ACADEMICS - article fails WP:GNG, WP:BASIC and WP:BIO. There are no reliable third-party published sources available. Being an accomplished and successful medical practitioner, who is involved in establishing a private website, is not a notability criteria in Wikipedia. Amsaim (talk) 07:31, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Leave - The article is appropriate and passes WP:GNG, WP:BASIC and WP:BIO.. There are reliable third party sources third-party including Marquis Whos Who, Royal College of Surgeons and Albany Medical College.
 * It may not sound great in 2012 but in 1998 it was a pioneering event to create a website with archives of historical and Socio-political dimensions to Nigeria and the website has been cited several times by Wikipedia authors. It has also been a major source of information on Nigeria's Socio-political issues for college students not only in Nigeria buy from all over the world. User:Ckanopueme —Preceding undated comment added 23:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Please note that this comment was made by a single purpose account, who is also the article's creator. — Fly by Night  ( talk )  03:25, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Please note that this in no way diminishes the claims, should they be accurate. No attempt has been made to refute the claim that this article passes GNG, BASIC and BIO.  --Nouniquenames (talk) 05:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Is the much-used template malfunctioning? In any case, Marquis' Who's Who does not come even close to being a reliable independent source: it's content is provided by the people included themselves. And creating that website back in 1998 may have been a major event, but it is not good enough if an editor here says so, we need proof in the form of reliable sources. Being a Fellow of the RCS does not appear to be a major honor, if one looks at their website. The page linked in the article seems to be transcluded from www.pmrehab.com (see top and bottom of that page). The link to the Albany Medical College confirms that he works there (although it does not give his professorial rank). None of these sources establishes notability in the least and this fails the guidelines mentioned as well as WP:PROF, as far as I can see. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 07:00, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Please see:
 * Virginia Board of Medicine - http://www.vahealthprovider.com/results_hon.asp?License_No=0101227545
 * Health Grades - http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-segun-dawodu-xf6pn
 * Everyday Health (Trivial Coverage) - http://www.everydayhealth.com/doctors/pain_management_specialist-maryland-harwood-1-105
 * Urhobo Historical Society (published info written by others, but exercised editorial oversight) - http://www.waado.org/environment/fedgovt_nigerdelta/bayelsainvasion/Edo_DeltaDebateOnInvasion/Debates.html
 * --Nouniquenames (talk) 04:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - these sources do not fulfill Wikipedia's content guidelines for reliable sources, and therefore cannot be used in Wikipedia's BLP articles. The first three sources are all primary sources, they are basically yellow pages, which simply list available doctors in a specific location (incidentally, many of these rating sites for doctors are critized for containing inaccurate information) ; the fourth source is a self-published and therefore unreliable source. Biographies of Living Persons must have secondary and/or third party published sources to establish notability. So far, there is not a single reliable source in this article, and the subject of the BLP article has not fulfilled any of the 9 criteria of WP:ACADEMICS. Amsaim (talk) 07:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - The sources listed by Nouniquenames are independent third party sources along with Marquis Who's Who as information contained in those sources were verified before publication. The site http://www.pmrehab.com/doctors.htm has links to verifiable sources of information. The subject of the BLP article has fulfilled number 4 of the 9 criteria of WP:ACADEMICS which is that a significant impact has been made by the person's academic work in the area of higher education and these include articles written on Spinal cord injury, Traumatic brain, cauda equina/conus medullaris syndrome, etc in peer-reviewed Emedicine/Medscape (http://www.emedicine.com) that are being used in virtually all ER facilities in this country as a source of management plan for patient with such conditions and sources of information for medical students, resident doctors and attending physicians all over the world. As mentioned earlier, Dawodu.com is a major source of socio-political and economic information in Nigeria that have been cited several times including on Wikipedia. User:ckanopueme 04:14, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 14:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


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