Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seibertron


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was REDIRECT. Harro5 22:46, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Seibertron
Google tells me that in Japan it's the "homeworld of the Transformers". Article consists only of an info box with a commercial link - is it spam? RobertG &#9836; talk 10:09, 23 December 2005 (UTC) It's all right, I've expanded on it quite a bit EnerJolt 11:50, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment You found this article only minutes after it was created. Perhaps the author is going to add more.  That said, it looks like it is describing an NN corp which bills itself as a "the ultimate transformers resource". Jamie (talk/contribs) 10:30, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
 * DeleteNon Notable.Obina 12:54, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Being knowledgeable about this kind of thing, I suggest that we redirect to Cybertron. Seibertron is the actual Japanese name for Cybertron. The website isn't notable, though. --Apostrophe 01:15, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Redirect per Apostrophe.  Jamie (talk/contribs) 02:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The Seibertron.com website is actually one of the most well known in internet Transformers fandom for various reasons (some of them quite controversial), and virtually anyone active in that fandom will know (and if they're not a member of said site thoroughly dislike) Seibertron.com.--Gunbuster 08:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Now it looks like vanity and fancruft. Trolls are a dime a dozen, and shouldn't even be noted; ignoring the obvious NPOV violations. There's more NPOV problems in other sections, as well. --Apostrophe 01:56, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Apostrophe, I've expanded further to include other features of the site, to make it seem less like fancruft. I've read the NPOV page, and I don't see what the problem is (if you could elaborate on the problem, instead of simply telling me there is a problem, it would be greatly appreciated). Moreover, the section on the trollers is a part of seibertron.com's coloured history, and as Gunbuster has pointed out, seibertron.com is well-noted in the Transformers internet fanbase, for better or worse. There are many other fansites concerning celebrated television shows i.e. alt.tv.simpsons and newgrounds, so I really don't see what the problem is, unless you have no great affection for Optimus and Megatron
 * I would like to note that I am the creator of the article, and a member of Seibertron.com, and it is true that Seibertron is among the best known Transformer sites on the net, and in the way of the VSD, not so much unlike Wikipedia itself. If you look at our page, it's grown since I first started it, and with time it will grow more.  We only wish to bring our collective knowledge forth so those interested Transformers will be able to learn about it's past.  Please give the page a second thought.
 * The article lacks even basic information on the majority of things that make it noteworthy. Heavy Metal War deserves it's inclusion, but where is the site's history? Seibertron.com has become (in?)famous throughout the fandom for the controversy it's either courted or created, not because of it's forum set-up, moderators or trolls.--Gunbuster 12:31, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Very Weak Keep, needs cleanup to eliminate forumcruft. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 13:03, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect. -Sean Curtin 22:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


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