Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seidai Myōjin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Shiramine Shrine. Without prejudice against the recreation of a suitably written and sourced article. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:08, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Seidai Myōjin

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The source provided a non-reliable website. During my WP:BEFORE, I found a couple of additional sources on the subject: this from Reuters and this from Discover Kyoto. While these are reliable sources, Seidai Myōjin is only mentioned in passing. In general, it appears that he is only ever mentioned in conjunction with the shrine mentioned in the sources. These mentions are not WP:SIGCOV. Modussiccandi (talk) 11:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mythology-related deletion discussions. Modussiccandi (talk) 11:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Modussiccandi (talk) 11:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Modussiccandi (talk) 11:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Shiramine Jingu Shrineen
 * 精大明神 is not linked in ja:白峯神宮. Kemari has Kanji 蹴鞠 same as Cuju. oops, guess en has an article Kemari
 * fiveby(zero) 12:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what your comment is intended to say. But the Guardian article is quite useful. The second paragraph mentions Seidai Myōjin in some detail. I've got to say, my view is still that the subject is notable in conjunction with the shrine or football in Japan more broadly but not necessarily as a stand-alone article. Feel free, though, to clear things up if I misconstrued your comment! Modussiccandi (talk) 13:05, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is much distinction between the shrine and the kami see Myōjin, Kanda Myōjin. A Setsumatsusha of Shiramine Shrine so a redirect there is probably appropriate, but someone familiar with Shinto might have a better idea. fiveby(zero) 14:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I have asked to have a look at the discussion. They are one of the main contributors to the Shinto article. Modussiccandi (talk) 20:52, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I have asked to have a look at the discussion. They are one of the main contributors to the Shinto article. Modussiccandi (talk) 20:52, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

I have an idea why the article is nominated for deletion, the article is basically a single sentence. I did mention that there weren't many English sources on the god. But there is a possibility that there are tons of sources written in Japanese. Sorry about that I probably should have looked for more sources last night. But, I'm against deletion. CycoMa (talk) 14:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - It seems notable enough to have its own page, given how it's a Japanese deity. However, I understand opposing arguments. There aren't a lot of online sources and the Wikipedia page itself is a whopping one sentence long. As someone else already mentioned, we should bring in some Shinto experts to comment on the matter. I'm definitely not one of them. — Coastaline (talk) 19:11, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Shiramine Shrine from available English sources on the net, seems to be a god, intrinsically linked to the shrine. Unless at least Japanese RS are quoted to substantiate his significance beyond the shrine, the article should be a redirect. Redtigerxyz Talk 13:05, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Shiramine Shrine - at least for now. Hopefully more English language literature on this particular kami will arise in future, which could be cited here. Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:23, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect for now. However this subject is notable enough because he is a Japanese deity! When some source are available on online, we will restore the article. VocalIndia (talk) 16:48, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.