Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Selman Kadria (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Stifle (talk) 09:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Selman Kadria
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An article created by a blocked sockpuppet that fails WP:GNG. There isn't a single English-language reliable source that mentions this figure nor the man he is purported to have killed. Currently largely unsourced. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 18:11, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 18:11, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep (WP:GNG). I have expanded the article with two articles by academic historians, a peer-reviewed article that discusses a folk song about him and a news piece which discusses the nomination process which the Prime Minister of Kosovo started in support of decoration of Selman Kadria as Hero of Kosovo. Numerous folk songs have been written about this figure, his tomb is a monument, streets have been named after and in 2019 the nomination process began for the HoK medal.
 * Side comment I found several sources for Milić Krstić in Serbo-Croatian media, but I haven't used them as they discuss topics beyond its scope. There's a photograph of Krstić's activities on wikicommons, which the nominator of the AfD, has also nominated for deletion. Apparently, the Chetnik commander Krstić was notable enough that a picture of him and his victims made it to wikicommons 100 years later.--Maleschreiber (talk) 04:13, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: The Academy of Sciences and Arts of Kosovo published in 2013 the collected works of Ali Podrimja, who was well-known as a poet, but was also a columnist and a literary critic. He discusses Selman Kadria, Milić Krstić and Ramë Vuthi on p.53. It's another reliable source which highlights the enduring notability of the article's subject.--Maleschreiber (talk) 05:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Just because a sock created this article, that's no reason for deletion. As Maleschreiber showed, there are multiple examples which show the notability of Selman Kadria. The last Afd in 2016 also failed. Crazydude1912 (talk) 18:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep -- A person nominated as Hero of Kosovo (if true) is likely to be notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:55, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You can verify the nomination via a google translate of the source. Some of these articles and similar articles about Belarusian figures who can't even get their names written correctly in international media - as of 2020! - indicate the inherent WP:SYSTEMIC problem that exists in coverage which we have to address in many cases.--Maleschreiber (talk) 23:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


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