Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Semitish

Semitish was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was KEEP

An "international auxiliary language" with 65 google hits, few of which (if any) seem to be references to the languages but rather references to "semitish" (ie semitic) culture. --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway|Talk]] 23:06, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. The language and the project that gave birth to it are beautiful and I would say noteworthy, at least from a linguistic perspective.--Sonjaaa 23:21, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, minor conlang. Cute idea, but not noteworthy for the time being. --fvw *  23:43, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)
 * Abstain. It looks like Semitish is also the name of a Neolithic root language (like Indo-European) and IMHO the article should be about that, with this new language as a footnote.   P Ingerson 23:54, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Actually my vote is leaning towards keep. I'm being persuadef by P Ingerson and Sonjaa. I'm reminded of the vfd notice that was recently put on that lovely functional programming language, Lazy K.  Not many people program in that, but it's not deletion material. --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway|Talk]] 00:03, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I think the more common term for the shared ancestor language of Hebrew, Arabic and other languages is Proto-Semitic. Perhaps this could be a redirect to that. In any case, I think we'd better wait for this language to accumulate a speaker base before we maintain an article about it, as I estimate there have been hundreds if not thousands of attempts to create international auxiliary languages with goals just as ambitious (this page gives you a sample of some of them that have made a presence on the Internet; who knows how many have not), and this one doesn't yet seem to stand out. [[User:Livajo|&#1051;&#1080;&#1074;&#1072;&#1081; | &#9786;]] 00:04, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh, and delete. [[User:Livajo|&#1051;&#1080;&#1074;&#1072;&#1081; | &#9786;]] 00:04, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Dubious. Nizar Habash has a cool site, certainly; but I don't see any evidence of notability, or even of the existence of other speakers. - Mustafaa 00:41, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is not yet notable, and linguistic history over the past century is littered with the dangling participles of dead, invented languages (the concept is contrary to how the human brain spontaneously engages speech and grammar). Wyss 02:49, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep&mdash;Trevor Caira 03:01, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Abstaining for the time being. &mdash;[[en:RaD Man|RaD Man (talk)]] 05:17, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep - Ld 05:57, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * This is either original research or art. Where is the evidence of notability? Wyss 17:09, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Keep unless there's absolutely nothing else that can be added to it. It's a workable premise for an article. --PacknCanes 06:13, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * del Mikkalai 02:21, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I am unconvinced that this "language" has any influence. Indrian 06:58, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
 * As an Esperanto speaker, I can tell you that this is very untrue. Most estimates indicate at least 1 million speakers worldwide, with a thriving literature, universal conventions, etc.; there are even native speakers of Esperanto. This language, however, shows no evidence of having more than one speaker, or that the language has even been developed to a point where one can hold conversations in it. Judging by the descriptions of the website, it is a language for use in a fictional world where no Israeli-Palestinian conflict arose, and individuals constructing languages for fictional worlds is a lot more common than you'd think, especially after the recent surge of interest in Tolkien. This person's project just doesn't seem to stand out in terms of notability. [[User:Livajo|&#1051;&#1080;&#1074;&#1072;&#1081; | &#9786;]] 18:41, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I just took a look at that website (guess I should have done it earlier, eh? :)) and you're right; this looks to be linguistic fanfic. Delete.  (And I didn't mean to take a swipe at everyone who speaks Esperanto.  I mean, Latin has no influence anymore either, but no one's going to argue that people don't speak it.  I just meant to draw a parallel that we'd be setting a bad precedent if we started excluding articles based on their relative influence on modern life.) --PacknCanes 19:26, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep for the time being. I agree on all points with Sonjaaa. However, the article is extremely short and I'd like to see it expanded. Also, all the link uncovers about the language is the alphabet. I hope the language will be online soon. If, after a month or four, it is still nothing but an alphabet, then I'd lean towards deletion. IJzeren Jan 08:05, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC).

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