Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sepideh Gholian


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Yunshui 雲 水 10:00, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Sepideh Gholian

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This appears to be WP:SYN, Fails notability and verifiability, violating copy right and the contributors seem to have a personal connection to the topic. Saff V. (talk) 07:35, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 08:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 08:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep If you look at the references in this articles you can see that the idea that it fails notability is quite ludicrous. As for copy right violation, you should point out which part exactly is in violation and it can be edited. It does not warrant deletion. Finally, a quick look at Saff V.'s page reveals that it is in fact he/she who has a personal connection to the topic of Shia Islam and Shia Islam theocracies such as the Iranian government. Fredrick eagles (talk) 15:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Quite notable in Iranian media. Ladsgroupoverleg 18:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , According to which RS?Saff V. (talk) 05:44, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep The entry is well-documented and chronicles the recent arrests of a prominent labor activist, citing multiple sources for claims and quotations. The Notability and Verifiability arguments are simply false. Saff V. claims a personal connection exists between the contributors and the topic; a curious accusation given the objective tone of the entry. Angenne (talk)  18:54, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep You can find several supporting sources about Sepideh Gholian and there are more sources available in foreign-language media esp. Persian,Kian (talk) 19:11, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Firstly Provide "several supporting sources"! Then, the affixed sources are not RS, NYT is not independent.


 * Keep per Ladsgroup.--Vathlu (talk) 00:18, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Interesting! keep based on the unproven claim!Saff V. (talk) 06:00, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep I think there is enough secondary sources available in Persian for this subject.فرهنگ2016 (talk) 08:02, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment:Among persian source, Radio Farda had stressed on this topic while the Verifiability of source is disputed! We have to consider that Sepideh Gholian is not notable, factors of Notability (people) isn't true about her. Maybe she was notable for only one event (Haft Tappeh workers protest). So there is no need to devote 3 article to Ali Nejati, Esmail Bakhshi and Sepideh Gholian.According to WP:NOTPROPAGANDA, Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda, advertising and showcasing! Saff V. (talk) 08:56, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * comment: Oh please Amensty International has released statements on this. There is exactly zero problem with verifiability. She is the central figure in a public controversy that caused the Islamic Republic to address the issue of torture and tortured confessions for the very first time. Are you even aware how many books, articles, and reports have been written on this topic? Ali Nejati is trade unionist leader with a career that has received extensive press coverage for over a decade. Why on earth you think his article should be merged with Sepideh Gholian's?! I think you should stop trying to use Wikipedia as a sopbox, battleground, or vehicle for propaganda for the political ideology that you support and try to look at the facts rationally. Fredrick eagles (talk) 10:46, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Just by a single source (Amensty), you can not prove the notability!Your comment is just OR and didn't prove any thing.Saff V. (talk) 11:03, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Way more than a single source. It is Amnesty, Radio Farda, Radio France, France 24, Middle East Monitor, Human Rights Watch etc. Please stop sabotaging this article because of your ideological commitments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredrick eagles (talk • contribs) 11:06, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Article neither fails notability and nor Verifiability and my examination reveals no item in violation of copy right in the article. All items are carefully sourced and the subject falls within the domain of notability defined in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pouyanb (talk • contribs)
 * Keep There are over 8000 google return search for the name of the subject which well defines the notability of the subject and amnesty international's English report is not the only source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pouyanb (talk • contribs) Duplicate vote struck.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 2 Vote by one user is not acceptable. Also consider WP:GNG, It doesn't mater 8000 result in GNG or 80000, the mentioned factors should be covered, Independent of the subject and so on.Saff V. (talk) 07:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Amin noubahar (talk) 23:22, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh...voting without providing any reason by user with only 4 edits!Saff V. (talk) 07:12, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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NOTE OFF WIKI CANVASSING People seem to be being attracted to this page due to off wiki canvassing on Twitter. Canterbury Tail talk 13:12, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable labour activist/journalist/political-prisoner. Has fawiki entry (with quite a bit of Persian language sources). Has quite a bit of English coverage as evident even in a cursory google news search. WP:BLPCRIME not an issue as she's imprisoned for political charges and since she is a WP:PUBLICFIGURE via her outspoken activism (that got her arrested). Icewhiz (talk) 11:17, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I found this AfD as a result of the canvassing complaint at AN/I and I'm sympathetic to people who face off-wiki canvasing when trying to make an improvement. But I have to say, it's pretty evident that reliable sources exist to establish Gholian as a notable individual. Simonm223 (talk) 13:42, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * comment Thank you, Simonm223. Please also take a look at Ali Nejati, the other article he is trying to have removed. He is a trade unionist whose work has received press coverage since at least 2009 as seen in fa.wikipedia. One of the sources that Saff V. has removed because he has a bad feeling about is a press release from a labor federation with over 50 million members worldwide. Quite honestly, I do not understand his obsession with having these pages removed. Fredrick eagles (talk) 14:09, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I also noticed this article because of the ANI report as Simon did. Looking at the article, the sources already cited are more than sufficient to pass WP:GNG.  I see no reason to delete this.  -- Jayron 32 14:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep for sure. I have added one more reference from VOA website to empower the notability and validity of the article. The article has been covered deeply by enough valid and reliable individual sources. All parts have been covered and no breach of copyright to conclude there is a violation of copyright. If any they can be corrected. It is clear from the list of references that the article is notable and covered by both English and Farsi media. I like somebody to explain based on which criterion of notability this decision has been made to decide to candidate this article for deletion? And how a user concluded that the creator of this article has a personal connection to the topic?! GharouniTalk</i> 14:30, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * comment Thank you. <b style="color:navy;">Gharouni</b> and Jayron  please also take a look at This AfD on Ali Nejati that Saff V. has created. He is intent on deleting Nejati's page but is incapable of providing any rational reason for it.  Fredrick eagles (talk) 17:09, 30 January 2019
 * Keep - easily passes GNG. I was tempted to close this as a snow keep, but I'll allow another admin to decide. Rlendog (talk) 21:09, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets Notability, has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Pahlevun (talk) 14:56, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


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