Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Septuple champion


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Black Kite (t) (c) 18:15, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Septuple champion

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Proposed as part of WikiProject_Martial_arts/Article_Review 3rd June 2010. WP:NRVE "No reliable sources found to verify notability". This term applies to anyone who's won something 7 times. There's no indication that it applies solely to boxing. Papaursa (talk) 22:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  —Papaursa (talk) 22:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep -- although "Seven-division champion" is a more popular name, if we used that name, there are several] possible references that can be used. – HTD  ( ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens. ) 00:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. The title does not appear to be notable in itself. I do not see any difference between this title and something like 'seven-time Wimbledon champion' (for example). Hypothetically speaking, someone could be notable for being a seven-time Wimbledon champion, and there might even be a few people who are seven-time Wimbledon champions, but that does not make the title notable—unless it becomes well known and widely used in its own right. Janggeom (talk) 14:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge Triple Champion, Quadruple Champion, etc. to Boxers with multiple world championship titles. None of them are notable enough to stand on their own, but are collectively worth an article IMO. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure any of these articles need to remain. All of that information is already in the articles on the individual boxers, so I'm not sure that any new information is being added.  One thing that bothers me is the description of winning multiple divisions.  For example, 3 of Manny Pacquiao's 7 titles are featherweight and 2 are welterweight--just different organizations.  Seven time world champion I would buy, 7 divisions doesn't mean quite the same thing.  Having said all of that, it would be OK with me if someone merged all of those articles into 1. Papaursa (talk) 03:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Pacquiao had 9 world championships, seven in different divisions. The main difference with seven-time Wimbledon champion is like this is the grand slam in any form (annual/career/boxed set). A seven-time Wimbledon champion is like a seven-time middleweight champion. – HTD  ( ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens. ) 07:36, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I take Howard the Duck's point about 'seven-time Wimbledon champion' perhaps not being the best analogy (though my basic question remains). I think Clarityfiend's suggestion of merging the articles could be a good compromise, and I also think that 'boxing' should be added into the article title(s) in any case. As Papaursa noted, anyone who has won something seven times qualifies as a 'septuple champion' (if no activity or discipline is specified). Just a few thoughts. Janggeom (talk) 09:18, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * In the old days, winning three championships in three separate weight divisions in boxing is a considerable feat; now with the several in-between weight divisions (the junior- and super- weight divisions), winning seven has now become sorta "The Treble"; as Apples below notes, only Pacquiao has been recognized universally to do such a feat. – HTD  ( ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens. ) 17:15, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. As Pacquiao is the only seven weight champion it seems silly to have an article. Having Héctor Camacho on it is a complete joke. Mr.Apples2010 (talk) 18:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge all I was going to say all of those articles should be removed, but I like the idea of merging them all into 1 article and titling it so that it's clear it refers just to boxing. Astudent0 (talk) 12:39, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge all 110% agree with above. Merge all similar articles into one, rename resulting article to make it clear it describes boxing. - OldManNeptune (talk) 08:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.