Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Serbs in Bulgaria


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The result was   keep. Nom withdrawn. Bearian (talk) 21:49, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Serbs in Bulgaria

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There is no evidence of notability. That there are apparently a small number of Serbian citizens in Bulgaria (doesn't mean ethnic Serbs) does not in itself provide notability, as this is not a non-trivial reference. No reliable sources seem to have a significant coverage of this group. The source that is linked to the article is hardly reliable, engaging in speculation and raising claims which can't be confirmed by another source (regarding the 1999 Association of Serbs, for example). Kostja (talk) 10:41, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Kostja (talk) 10:54, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. Kostja (talk) 10:54, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. Kostja (talk) 10:54, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Decently-sourced and notable stub which has potential for expansion.  — Toдor Boжinov — 21:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the only source that doesn't mention them only in passing is not really reliable. And there can't be really an article on every group that happened to be mentioned in a census. Kostja (talk) 07:24, 21 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Subject is definitely notable, that the article uses only one source is not a reason for deletion. Athenean (talk) 03:17, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Not all possible combinations of "X-ians living in Y" are considered notable, since for many the entire information available could not fill more than line in a census table. Many similar articles have been in fact deleted, see the ethnic group deletion sorting. This article has slightly better, but mainly due to a not very reliable source. Kostja (talk) 07:46, 22 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Here's a few articles in the Serbian language which may be useful for this article:
 * http://www.srpskadijaspora.info/vest.asp?id=3412 talks about history of the small Serbian community in Bulgaria. It can be extracted from Article story about monk Serafim from Hilandar who is during infection of plague in Samokov 1838 brought into the city part of the relics of Saint Sava (Who died on January 14, 1236 while he was in Veliko Tarnovo). Article also describes emigration of part of Serbian communist which was loyal to USSR after Tito–Stalin split in 1948 and characteristics of the subsequent migration "waves". Article discusses how Serbs was easily assimilated into the majority population because of the great similarities in language, religion and customs... It seems to me that all it might be interesting for the historical section of article.
 * http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/aktuelno.69.html:275659-Sreckovic-o-polozaju-Srba-u-Bugarskoj article from Večernje novosti in which Serbian Minister of Diaspora talking about position of Serbs in Bulgaria. In article is mentioned establishment of The Association of Serbs in Bulgaria.
 * http://www.kurir-info.rs/osnovano-udruzenje-srba-u-bugarskoj-clanak-33683 (from Kurir), and http://www.glas-javnosti.rs/clanak/politika/glas-javnosti-25-02-2010/udruzenje-srba-u-bugarskoj (from Glas javnosti) say more about the foundation of The Association of Serbs in Bulgaria in which first elected President was/is Đoko Rosić.
 * Some useful information may be obtained from these English sources: http://www.joshuaproject.net/people-profile.php?peo3=14864&rog3=BU, http://www.emg.rs/en/news/serbia/124077.html --MirkoS18 (talk) 16:44, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Extra. This group is marginally mentioned in these sources to: http://books.google.hr/books?id=HD1YAAAAYAAJ&q=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&dq=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jTqUT7i3BM6M4gTMntTQDw&redir_esc=y (Outlook Company, 1912), http://books.google.hr/books?id=mW5pAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&dq=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jTqUT7i3BM6M4gTMntTQDw&redir_esc=y (Ohio State University Press, 1990), http://books.google.hr/books?id=OZ0YAAAAIAAJ&q=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&dq=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jTqUT7i3BM6M4gTMntTQDw&redir_esc=y (New York Times Co., 1918), http://books.google.hr/books?id=ZWIRAljCR7oC&pg=PA73&dq=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jTqUT7i3BM6M4gTMntTQDw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22Serbs%20in%20Bulgaria%22&f=false (Encyclopedia Of The Musical Theatre), http://books.google.hr/books?id=AywZAQAAIAAJ&q=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&dq=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iz2UT_SBG4na4QTDnpXRDw&redir_esc=y (McFarland & Company, 2004), http://books.google.hr/books?id=JD5aAAAAYAAJ&q=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&dq=%22Serbs+in+Bulgaria%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iz2UT_SBG4na4QTDnpXRDw&redir_esc=y (F. Leslie, 1876). Of course all that can not be of some real benefits since this is just a casual reference but maybe can show some additional notability?--MirkoS18 (talk) 17:26, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The first source is already in the article (and I had doubts about its reliability) and Joshua Project is not reliable, but the rest are enough. I'm withdrawing the nomination. Kostja (talk) 18:12, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Neither me this source dont seem very reliable but some facts that are stated may be relatively easy to check if there is any doubt about this part of text.--MirkoS18 (talk) 18:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep: passes notability and easy to expand based on given bibliography.Alexikoua (talk) 22:22, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Withdraw: As I pointed out above, I'm withdrawing the nomination. Kostja (talk) 15:51, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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