Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Serena Dalrymple


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The result was Keep. Fram (talk) 13:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Serena Dalrymple

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Non notable child actress, article appears to have been written by her friends. There does seem to be a web-presence, but no decent, reliable sources as far as I can see. Appearances appear to be minor. Prod was removed by the author. Both the author and an anon have blanked the page at different times. J Milburn (talk) 14:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Changed my opinion. See below. J Milburn (talk) 14:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Completely agree regarding lack of notability and biased tone. Alloranleon (talk) 14:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not meet WP:BIO in several ways. Tanthalas39 (talk) 17:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete agree with above, that it fails WP:BIO about an actress with "awesome acting skills" who recently "quitted Showbiz" according to the article and "at these very moments" she "no longer is going to make a comeback in the Showbiz industry". The entire article is awash in redlinks and bad English (I just gave some of the most glaring examples). Look, if she's famous in the Phillipines, i'd suggest a transwiki to the Tagalog Wikipedia. Also, i'd suggest a coat of salt on this due to the actions by the author of the article mentioned in the nomination. Doc Strange (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If she is notable in the Philippines, then she is notable enough for Wikipedia, which is a global encyclpedia. enwiki is not US/UK/AU/NZ/CAwiki. cab (talk) 00:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Isn't notable enough, and agree looks to be written by her friends and is very biased. Hatmatbbat10 (talk) 23:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep given that she has multiple instances of non-trivial coverage in various Philippine newspapers . Various awards she has received are also confirmed at, and confirmation of the roles she has played can be found in the various mentions in a Google News archive search . WP:COI problems should be fixed by editing, not deletion. cab (talk) 00:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.   cab (talk) 00:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep now, given the sources. "enwiki is not US/UK/AU/NZ/CAwiki" is absolutely correct.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 02:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My opinion has changed to keep. Decent sources appear to have been cited regarding her notability, but sources for those awards would still be nice. J Milburn (talk) 14:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem, as I see it, is that Philippine institutions (such as award-giving bodies) don't keep very good websites. For instance, the Awit Awards website doesn't keep a list of past winners extending to way back before the Internet hit the mainstream. There are, in fact, some institutions that do not have a website. So in the end, we'll be forced to rely to old-school newspapers from library archives. But, yes, Serena did win some awards, I remember hearing of it (just that, I can't remember which one for which movie and when). --- Tito Pao (talk) 01:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's alright to cite old newspapers- if you have access to those archives, then citing the papers in this article (and other, similar articles) would be a fantastic help. J Milburn (talk) 13:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable child actress. -- Howard  the   Duck  17:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Very notable actress in the Philippines (actually more notable when she was a child actress). She used to be the leading star in about a dozen films, and very notable Philippine comedians were on the supporting cast of these movies (e.g. Dolphy, Babalu, Redford White, Carding of the Reycards duo). I even saw some of her movies myself when I was younger =P All those movies which are (still) red links? She's the leading star in allthose movies, and at the time she earned a huge sum that she was able to support her family, including her two other sisters. She keeps a lesser profile these days, which started after the death of her mother, but that doesn't mean she isn't notable. --- Tito Pao (talk) 01:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. A notable former child actress, but we need to find valid sources (but they are in libraries by now). Starczamora (talk) 14:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable child actress. See her IMDB profile. Has starred in a lot of movies, and has won awards in the Philippine version of the Oscars. --seav (talk) 17:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


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