Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sergeant Troy "Told" 'Ya'


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Tone 22:21, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Sergeant Troy "Told" 'Ya'

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Article makes unverified claims about hits and popularity, but cannot find any mention of this artist in independent, reliable sources. Fails WP:MUSIC. Somno (talk) 04:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi thank you I am an executive of Interscope Records, and this has just happen so no media attention has no clue about this new artist. He was just signed Yesterday, 1-5-09. --Ispeakenglishha25 (talk) 04:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, then the artist definitely fails the notability criteria for an encyclopedia article. Somno (talk) 04:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete--wow, this is weird, and it doesn't pass the hoax smell test. Drmies (talk) 04:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is the same person whose article was deleted a few weeks ago at Articles for deletion/Sergeant Troy. However, there are still no real independent sources to confirm his claim to be a signed recording artist. If he is for real, he will get coverage in reliable sources soon enough, and then we can have an article about him in Wikipedia. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete this guy doesn't get it, and I hope he's not trolling. Oh well I'll assume good faith... for now.  JBsupreme (talk) 07:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, there's a conflict of interest, as shown in this edit here. MuZemike  ( talk ) 07:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I feel our client is in need an is able to be on this site, we are not breaking any rules this is not him from first person view this is an EXE of his Record Lable writing there is nothing and I feel the page should be kept up. --216.188.255.35 (talk) 23:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Lame joke hoax of Soulja Boy Tell 'Em. I'd think an Interscope executive usually cedes to some viral marketing outfit to post details about their artists, which is of course a violation of many, many policies. Not to mention Interscope usually has website designs that don't look like a circa-1998 Geocities page.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, no hits on iTunes for this artist's music.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 04:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

We have a sitemaster on his site now so mind your business thats legal disresecting assulting a exe of a Major Lable thank you. His page will stay on. Thank you No More. :) \

Ari Hendrum VP Executive Of Interscope Website Designs And Artist Releationship --216.188.255.35 (talk) 04:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * So after doing a WHOIS search of your IP, you and your 'webmaster' are based in San Marcos, Texas, Mr. Hendrum (who strangely, has no web presence at all according to Google)? Usually webstaffs of major labels are based in New York or Los Angeles, and even the smallest lackey in a major record label at least gets some presence.


 * Also for a 'exe of a Major Lable', you seem not to know your titles. A&R stands for Artists and Repertoire, and unless it's a label of one, they won't ever touch the web design.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 04:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I would advise anyone who wants to get an article about a musician or band into Wikipedia, whether or not they are employed by a record company, to review the criteria at WP:MUSIC. There are a dozen different criteria by which a musician can be deemed notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, and the artist only has to satisfy one of those criteria. But if "media attention has no clue" about the performer, the performer may have to wait until the media does take notice of them. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 10:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. An article for "Troy Rodriguez" has been created every few weeks for quite a while now and all have been deleted as hoaxes, as most contain wildly fabricated and unverifiable claims of accomplishments (various movies and television shows starred in, albums released, concerts played). None have ever provided any kind of reliable, verifiable references of any kind.  Several article names (including, I believe, Troy Rodriguez (actor) and Troy Rodriguez (rapper)) have been salted because of this.  There was a mock article touting the user's accomplishments on their user page for a short time before that too was deleted.  The articles occasionally find their way past new article patrolling, so I tend to run a search on the name "Troy Rodriguez" when I think to, which is how I found this one.  Rnb (talk) 15:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello Ari Hendrum our VP Executive Of Interscope Website Designs And Artist Releationship, has explained to us Interscope that you will not take our new Recording Artist I am Tim Mosley, I am an Talent Agent. First of all We are not stupid, about A&R and I am not located in San Marcus, Texas you are not correct us (Interscope) we have a total of 500 new ip address's every day so obviously this is one of em. No More aftyer your edit you either keep him or the page get's deleted and us as a record lable will not allow you to have any info on him and if so we catch any info than we will go legal, but we know he is a real recording artist and we have a site master on it's way with his page and thats really it I alreadye explained, if the page is deleted (No Threat) we will not allow anything involving his name "Troy Rodriguez" "Sergeant Troy" "Sergeant Troy "Told" 'Ya'" nothing so good bye.

Tim Mosley : Talent Agent/Website Designer --216.188.255.35 (talk) 22:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that is an empty threat. Either Sergeant Troy will establish himself as a notable musical artist, or he won't. So far, he hasn't. If he never does, there won't be any demand for a Wikipedia article about him. But if he does, Wikipedia will be fully within its rights to post an article about him, because there will be publicly available information about him in the media. Celebrities (or their record companies) can't ban encyclopedias from writing articles about them. Besides, saying that if we don't agree to keep this article now, we can never have it in the future, sounds like a case of sour grapes. I note that we have deleted articles about other musical artists before and then later kept them because the artist became notable in the meantime. Shwayze was deleted five times before it was finally accepted. B5 (band) was deleted six times before it was finally accepted. Yet their record companies never threatened to ban us from having information about Shwayze or B5. Why not focus on establishing Sergeant Troy as a notable musical artist, rather than posting all these complaints to Wikipedia? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * For a talent agent/website designer you have abysmal spelling. Again, your IP is out for all to see, and it corresponds to San Marcos, you can't hide it. Interscope doesn't horde IP addresses, which are finite and usually not hosted on the servers of a minor Texas cable ISP. This is a discussion as to whether the artist is notable or not, and by the 'sources' which are just the homepages of the organizations cited, you have not made your case at all. Get famous by hard work and talent, we'll definitely consider an article on this person. But for now, boasting about things he hasn't done yet isn't doing any favors to anybody.


 * May I also repeat again; webmasters and agents never do both jobs, ever. If you think someone like Scott Boras is coding HTML for all his sports clients, I'd love to see video of that, because I know it isn't happening unless it involves their Facebook or MySpace.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 06:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete, recreation of previously deleted article CSD G4.    Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 14:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  19:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I know who I am, ok sorry about yesterday, when he gets notable in december are we allowed to add him? --216.188.255.35 (talk) 22:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. If he gets notable, the article will be allowed to be re-created at that time. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.