Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sergei Ivanov (art historian)


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 16:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Sergei Ivanov (art historian)

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This person does not appear to meet the basic requirements for inclusion in the encyclopedia, or more specifically WP:AUTHOR. The article is almost certainly an autobiography and I cannot find any independent sources to verify that they are notable. Smartse (talk) 16:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Autobiography, with no objective reliable sources. By extension, calls into question a host of edits and articles dependent on self-references. JNW (talk) 02:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with JNW. NZ forever (talk) 06:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. This article about Russian art historian who writes about the known and well-known Russian artists of the Soviet era - representatives of the Leningrad School of Painting (see for example Alexander Samokhvalov, Sergei Osipov, Mikhail Natarevich, and others). He is the author of the well-known еncyclopedic edition "Unknown Socialist Realism. The Leningrad School" (in Russian and English), which is "a first inclusive publication on the history of the Leningrad School, one of the brightest and significant phenomena in the Soviet Art of 1930-1980 that strongly influenced its contents and development". In the article there are numerous external links on use of his book by major American and European fine art galleries, libraries, and museums as an important source for studying both the history of Soviet art in general, and creativity of its individual members. There is a solid contribution to Wikipedia on the subject (over 200 articles in english and russian, and over 400 media files), marked by The Commons Barnstar. As you can see, the article was created May 6, 2010 and until August 30 to the article there were no complaints. Is not the reason for the removal of article conflicts arising in connection with the removal of his edits? Leningradartist (talk) 16:16, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless more sources are added demonstrating notability of the author. Right now the only solidly verifiable bit of info we have is the publication of the "Unknown Socialist Realism. The Leningrad School" book. However, the links provided above by User:Leningradartist are not sufficient to demonstrate even the notability of the book, let alone of its author. Several of these links, are library catalog entries - they certainly do not demonstrate notability. Notability of the book could be demonstrated by published reviews of it or significant specific discussion of the book in other books, scholarly articles, etc. Among the links Leningradartist provides above, there is one which does have one paragraph worth of discussion of the book. But it would be necessary to have considerably more such examples of coverage to demonstrate notability of the book, and even more to infer the notability of the author - the book would have to be a real hit to make the author notable just on the basis of writing that book. It may well be that the subject of the article is notable but the refs included in the current text of the article are quite insufficient to justify notability. If there are significant academic awards/honors or something else in  terms of signficiant and specific coverage of the subject himself independent sources, they are yet to be produced. Finally, this is definitely a WP:AUTO case - the info at the userpage  User:Leningradartist identifies him as Sergei Ivanov, the subject of the article we are discussing. For WP:AUTO situations the evidence of notability would have to be particularly convincing to justify inclusion. Nsk92 (talk) 17:14, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete This is essentially the work of an editor whose article was deleted from the Russian wikipedia and is currently flooding this wikipedia with literally hundreds of mediocre articles and imagery...Modernist (talk) 15:29, 10 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Thank you for the fact that, despite your very busy, taking time to express here your own reasoned and impartial opinion. Leningradartist (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment You are very welcome - looks like I am not the only one with that opinion - here is a comment from a Russian editor ...Modernist (talk) 19:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I was particularly touched by your opinion. Leningradartist (talk) 23:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
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