Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sergey Mavrody


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. After examining the editing histories of Phi Beta, Teotocopulos and DishingSevens, I agree with Biruitorul that it is likely that their "keep" opinions were externally canvassed, either through the Elance.com advertisements linked to in the discussion, or otherwise. These opinions are consequently discounted. Among the remaining participants there is consensus that the subject is not notable enough for inclusion because of insufficient substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources.  Sandstein  09:01, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Sergey Mavrody

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This seems like a typical vanity page, with scant evidence the subject has received any sort of coverage in independent sources. I'm assuming he's distinct from the convicted fraudster who shares his name, although even that guy probably doesn't pass WP:N. - Biruitorul Talk 22:38, 2 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Bad choice for deletion. He is an established author. There are plenty of independent sources. For instance, this IBM site has a reference to his book:, or this British  site : it looks independent to me.  HTML5 is a hot technology and you gotta be pretty notable to be IBM listed. The article may need some work but it's a good start. You are right though, that he shares his name with that ponzi schemer. Teotocopulos (talk) 03:11, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Fine, now let's have some significant coverage of the subject in reliable, independent sources. A couple of listings of his work in the bibliographies of self-published articles don't amount to much. - Biruitorul Talk 04:59, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete Seems like a multi-talented hard working person who has accomplished a lot. However I can't find anything in his bio that would qualify on Wikipedia notability grounds. He is a Professor, but an Adjunct, so doesn't qualify under WP:SCHOLAR. He is an author, but just publishing books is not enough we need some coverage about the author and/or multiple in-depth book reviews from professional sources. He has not won any major awards, though he worked on award-winning films such as Bridge (1988 film), but not in a lead Producer or Director capacity. His film art career is interesting since it involves a number of US/USSR collaborations but I am not expert to judge the notability of this, thus we need secondary sources to verify, of which there are none. Maybe this is a case of the sum being greater than the parts, but I can't get past the lack of independent reliable secondary sourcing. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 17:54, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep — Author's publications are cited by peers in the HTML5 field, and he has been a writer, producer, director, and art director for several award-winning short films including Bridge, which itself was the subject of a celebrity-narrated documentary, in which the subject was featured. Therefore, I believe the subject meets WP:AUTHOR and/or WP:FILMMAKER. A citation to a newspaper article has been added that references his film work. Additional independent resources need to be added, but the subject is notable. — Phi beta (talk) 01:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Added three news references — Phi beta (talk) 18:26, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This page is of a notable living person. Notability for WP:AUTHOR and WP:FILMMAKER has been established and improved upon. Also, most all of the references are by reputable third parties. I added several more references for the notable U.S./Russian co-production  Bridge including those from the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times. He also has received notable awards for another film. I strongly vote to keep this page in it's current state.  As with all articles, additional references with continue to improve this notable entry. DishingSevens (talk) 16:58, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Did Sergey Mavrody personally receive an award for Bridge or was it for the film? What was Mavrody's role in the film, how central/important was that role? Honest question's as I am not sure. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 19:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe, it is a film award, actually there are 6 different awards for this film + an award for the related documentary. Typically, a creative executive team on a film set includes Director, Director of Photography (DP), and Art Director (more often now called Production Designer (PD)). According to Wikipedia “Production designers have one of the key creative roles in the creation of motion pictures and television. Working directly with the director and producer, they must select the settings and style to visually tell the story…. production designer collaborates with the director and director of photography to establish the visual feel and specific aesthetic needs of the project. The production designer guides key staff in other departments such as the costume designer, the key hair and make-up stylists, the special effects director and the locations manager (among others)”. So, yes, PD is a lead role (sort of Chief Design Officer). I guess, for that reason Mavrody co-starred in the related “Bridging the Gap” documentary, narrated by Casey Kasem. In addition, Mr. Mavrody won two other awards in a Producer and Director capacity (film broadcasted on WTTW). Teotocopulos (talk) 21:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - this may mean nothing, but the three editors arguing "keep" have edit patterns that are, shall we say, unusual. Phi Beta: one edit in 2012 other than on Mavrody, two edits in 2010, everything else 2008 and prior. Teotocopulos: five edits in 2012. Two on this AfD, one on Mavrody's film, two on HTML5 (an area of expertise for Mavrody). One edit in 2011, everything else in 2009-10. DishingSevens: just joined today; seventh and eighth overall edits on Mavrody. Other than one AfD by Phi beta in 2005 (!), this is the only AfD activity for all three users.
 * I'm not making any accusations of malfeasance, but the pattern here just seems a little out of the ordinary. - Biruitorul Talk 00:02, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Here is another pattern. According to The Editor Interaction Analyzer, users Biruitorul and Green Cardamom work together: |The Editor Interaction Analyzer link So instead of changing the subject, why don't we get back to discuss the article, which is significantly improved. Teotocopulos (talk) 01:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * If we "worked together" you would expect to see communication on talk pages and a lot more than a handful of coincidental edits that don't show collaboration. We are both high edit count users so incidental path-crossing is not surprising. Creating a red herring is typical for someone with something to hide: it's curious the Elance advertisement was placed just 40 minutes after your initial Keep vote on this page. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 02:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Having read over his page I believe Mavrody is a notable author. He passes WP:AUTHOR in my opinion. The fact he was given a Genius visa shows that he is admired by his peers (at least in the US anyway). He has also recieved numerous acknowledgements and awards for his work in both film and as an author. The fact that his books have been published in a number of different languages says something in itself to me about the success of his books. I believe this article could do with more references going forward, but in my eyes it is clear he is notable. JP22Wiki (talk) 11:20, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Biruitorul, good eye. These keep votes are most likely from paid editors. They were contracted on Elance, as you can see here. And it looks like the same Elance user is looking to buy more keep votes, as seen here.115.187.74.73 (talk) 19:29, 7 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - non-notable film tech and author of how-to manuals. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  00:46, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete due to lack of substantial secondary sources about anything in the article, and doubts over neutrality of article due to COI editing. 67.119.3.105 (talk) 01:17, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.