Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Servicios Aéreos


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 06:34, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Servicios Aéreos

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Not a valid disambiguation page. Disambiguation pages are for articles which share the exact same (or very similar) name. These airlines do not share the name "Servicios Aereos". Also, we don't disambiguate foreign-language terms unless the term is widely used in english sources. We already have List of airlines of Spain and List of airlines of Venezuela and List of airlines of Ecuador, etc.  &mdash;SW&mdash; talk 19:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 01:13, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete This list of Spanish-language-using airlines doesn't belong on English Wikipedia.--Pontificalibus (talk) 13:40, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - This dab page is useful. It is entirely possible that one or more of those airlines has been referred to as "Servicios Aéreos. Mjroots (talk) 04:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * But it's not a phrase widely used in the English language. Should we have a dab page for "Servicii de avion" as it's possible one or more Romanian airlines may have been refereed to by this phrase?--Pontificalibus (talk) 08:26, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's "entirely possible"? Ok... well, it's also entirely possible that the airlines have been referred to as "Fingle Fangle Flapjack Flightbucket", but without providing sources which show that they are called either of these names in English sources, then they are both equally useless and inappropriate dab pages.  We don't have a disambiguation page from 航空公司 to various Chinese airlines, nor do we have a dab for авиакомпания to various Russian airlines.  &mdash;SW&mdash; yak 14:19, 16 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 *  Keep  - When it comes to proper nouns, it doesn't matter what the "common" English phrase is or isn't but what the actual unique entity name is, in this case multiple airlines and air services companies in the Spanish language world which include or have included "Servicios Aéreos" in their official names.--Oakshade (talk) 17:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a proper noun, it's Spanish for "Air Services". See also WP:PTM, which states that "A disambiguation page is not a search index. Do not add a link that merely contains part of the page title, or a link that includes the page title in a longer proper name, where there is no significant risk of confusion."  That is precisely what this dab page is doing.  It's using the proper names of these airlines, most of which include some variation of "Servicios Aéreos" (but none of their complete names are "Servicios Aéreos"), and adding links to them.  There is no risk of confusion between "Consorcio Venezolano de Industrias Aeronáuticas y Servicios Aéreos" (more commonly known as Conviasa) and "Compañía De Servicios Aéreos Nacionales S.A." (more commonly known as Sansa Airlines).  No one would ever refer to any of these airlines solely as "Servicios Aéreos", just like no one in the US would ever refer to American Airlines as "Airline".  This is why the Airline (disambiguation) page doesn't include American Airlines, Continental Airlines, Southwest Airlines even though they all have the word "Airline" in their name.  Until it can be shown that there are multiple entities whose entire name is "Servicios Aéreos", or who are commonly referred to solely as "Servicios Aéreos", this dab page is inappropriate.  &mdash;SW&mdash; yak 19:40, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * While it's part of many proper nouns, the section of the guideline appears to specifically forbade partial names. Although I disagree with that and feel there are exceptions, I'm going to be neutral on this.--Oakshade (talk) 21:00, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.