Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seth Suleman Ismail Chhapra


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Some research could be done on the company to see if an article would be suitable - I could easily undelete/userfy the history of this article on request to add it. Keeper |  76  00:20, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Seth Suleman Ismail Chhapra

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Fails WP:GNG. GSearch results seem to return only mirrors, directories etc and even if the company he founded was/is notable, notability is not inherited. Sitush (talk) 20:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:37, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:37, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - Unfortunately this man lived and died before computers were widely used so anything about him is probably going to be archived newspapers or books. However, searches at Google News and Books haven't found anything so it's possible they're not English or haven't been transferred to the Internet yet. I did find something that appears to be relevant here which mentions him and the company for an investment but it's vague aside from these details. I tried searching for only the company (United Timber Industries) but found nothing useful with Google Books but I did find this and this (apparently dead) which may suggest the company still exists. I'm open to other users trying to dig deeper but if no sources are found, there isn't much to support this article. SwisterTwister   talk  20:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Theopolisme   ( talk )  00:27, 7 March 2013 (UTC)




 * Delete - I'm not seeing sourcing. Article started in 2007 seemed to be a cross between a memorial and a fluff piece. I suspect the company might meet notability guidelines and that would be a good place for a short biography of this otherwise seemingly non-notable founder to be integrated, eventually. Carrite (talk) 18:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep but probably move to be a page on the company. I would not be willing to keep an article with no verification whatsoever, but there are sources on the firm, United Timber Industries.  DGG ( talk ) 06:18, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Hardly anything has been added to the article since its creation. The company may indeed be doing well now but the Indiamart website cited by DGG suggests that his successors have built it up, as they themselves say: we have come a long way from our humble beginning as a small time timber dealing company in the 1950's.  In other words, though he created the enterprise, he did not know which way it was heading. If the company is considered notable, someone  could create an article  on it and his name could be mentioned there. However, the second site cited by  DGG regarding imports states explicitly: This member has NOT been TradeSafe Verified. Trust Certification provides transparency regarding the identity and legitimacy of your trading partners on Importers.com. Only companies whose business information has been verified by a third-party source are TradeSafe Verified. Something desirable regarding notability  seems to be missing there, as NOT is being emphasised.--Zananiri (talk) 16:00, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
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