Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seven Friends of Pancho Villa and the Woman with Six Fingers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Emir Kusturica. As the amount of references is limited, I am leaving it up to editors how much (if anything) they wish to merge there. Stifle (talk) 08:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Seven Friends of Pancho Villa and the Woman with Six Fingers

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Prod contested by author. Article about a film that explicitly claims filming has not yet begun, thereby failing WP:CRYSTAL and WP:NFF. No prejudice to re-addition of this article once notability criteria are met. KuyaBriBri Talk 16:08, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Drawn Some (talk) 16:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Do not delete. The nom doesn't make sense. The Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (films) was created on 3 March 2007, which is almost two years before it actually went into not only filming. If this truly was a policy in the Wikipedia, it would've been applied till now (loads of other examples, if not most). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 7PanchoVilla (talk • contribs) 16:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note — 7PanchoVilla (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. --Unionhawk Talk 16:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd like to note that the above note is completely ridiculous and a classic case of biting newbies. Put yourself in 7PanchoVilla's shoes for a while: he creates an account and creates an article about a film project he's interested in. An hour later, the article is at AfD. So he states his opinion and three minutes later someone adds a note attempting to discredit him. (I suppose one can argue that the above note is not there to discredit the new account but then what exactly is the purpose of that note?) Pascal.Tesson (talk) 21:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Aside from the general rule about the WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, this "otherstuff" argument fails in that there was never any doubt that the Harry Potter film series would be completed, whereas there is still some decent possibility that this particular film project may never get off the ground. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I'd like to note that I take no personal offense in this. After all, I am probably dealing with experienced administrators who deal with this kind of thing on a daily basis. However, I want to kindly ask WikiDan61 to substantiate his claims that there is any possibility at all that this film may actually never be made, to elaborate why does he present such an opinion. --7PanchoVilla (talk) 05:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Response I note the possibility that the film may not be made because ANY film is only a possibility until all the players are in place and filming actually starts (and sometimes even THEN the film gets shot but never distributed). This happens to large and small projects all the time.  That is why the WP:NFF guidelines suggest waiting until principal shooting has begun.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

*Delete per nom. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Well known project about super famous Pancho Villa and developed by super famous Emir Kusturica. Solid sources about the project's development are already numerous: Kusturica sets Pancho Villa movie (Variety), Kusturica plans Pancho Villa picture (Reuters), Emir Kusturica wants Javier Bardem for Pancho Villa biopic (The Guardian). There are also a number of articles available in French. The article is just fine: it's about the project. If the project fails, there will probably still be enough material to justify an article. (like the article on The Man Who Killed Don Quixote) We're not talking about a low-budget project by a film student here. At the very least, the content should be merged into the article about Kusturica and the redirect should be kept. Pascal.Tesson (talk) 21:29, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I'd have to take some issue with categorizing Kusturica as "super-famous", but I do agree that the new source that have been cited merit consideration. However, as the film is still in the speculative stages, I would suggest merging this article with the Emir Kusturica article for now.  The article can be recreated when the project has gelled more.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Kusturica is one of six directors to win two Palme d'Or (and was nominated for it an additional three times), he won a Silver Bear, a Golden Lion, a Silver Lion, countless prizes at the Yugoslavian and Serbian film awards, won awards for best foreign film in France, Japan, Italy, Argentina, nominated for the best foreign film Oscar, nominated for the César Award for Best Supporting Actor, was awarded a European architecture prize, wrote an opera which was presented at the prestigious Opéra Bastille, was involved with the very successful band Zabranjeno Pušenje, was President of the jury in Cannes, is a UNICEF ambassador, a member of the French Ordre des Arts et des Lettres, the founder and director of the Küstendorf Film Festival. He is super famous. Pascal.Tesson (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge to Emir Kusturica WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per nom. South Bay    (talk) 05:30, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —PC78 (talk) 23:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Emir Kusturica for now. Project is still too speculative to warrant a seperate article, and the relevent guidelines are quite clear. PC78 (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Userfy back to author, and thank him for a well-written article. Allow its return when principle filming has begun. Since the director is quite notable, and has the eye and ear of the film industry, this film is more likely than not. However, waiting for more press about the project is wisest.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:08, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.