Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sewan mnana


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

Sewan mnana
The result was Delete, as unverifable, likely hoax or OR. --cjllw ʘ  TALK 04:42, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
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This article appears to be fraudulant. See Articles for deletion/Rustic kofos; both this and the Rustic kofos articles were originally written by the same user. CJLippert 16:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC) 69.254.127.99 16:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) the article lists one source, but when you go to the source it does not discuss this article topic (it is about importance of dreams, and not about the "supernatural death syndrome")
 * 2) the article claims the name is from Ojibwe, yet even with vowel syncope as consideration and "sounds like" search in the master Freelang Ojibwe Dictionary file, to which the daughter product is made available at the Freelang site, no such word or phrase appear in the master list.
 * 1) I'm inclined to agree. I was the one who cleaned up the article to meet Wiki standards (simple editing and organisation), but after further research, I found absolutely no external references that could verify the existence of this legend.  This is why I flagged it for citation.
 * 2) If no one speaks up, delete it.
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 16:26, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete It looks like a hoax to me. The only non-Wikipedia ghit was someone who was referencing the Wikipedia article. Let's kill this before it gets any farther. Brianyoumans 16:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Just to make sure, I checked out all Dakota, Lakota, Iroquois, Oneida, Mohawk and Wendat resources I have and have not come across these words either.  CJLippert 15:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What about Navajo? It's supposedly harder to break than Enigma. greg park avenue 15:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't have access to Navajo language materials. However, the article claims the "Sewan mnana" originated in New York, and the Navajos were not there in the past 2000 years -- even in their oral history. CJLippert 17:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sewan means 'wampum' - go to and click Columbia Encyclopedia. Mnana is definitely a Spanish word, probably shortcut from 'mañana' meaning tomorrow or morning just like English 'morrow' or 'morn', I guess. Ojibwe could adapt a foreign word just like the other nations and tribes do. Still a reference from the author of this article, from where he got this idiom, is absolutely necessary. greg park avenue 21:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.