Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sex and Crime: Oliver's Strange Journey


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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 07:47, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Sex and Crime: Oliver's Strange Journey

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Completely fails WP:NBOOK. The SPA that created the article claimed it was from "Westhoff Publishing". I can't find that publisher, but Amazon says this is from "CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform". In other words, self-published. Couldn't locate any significant coverage of the book by reliable third party sources. No ranking in Amazon. Nothing at all to indicate that this book has done anything that gets it past NBOOK. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Not even in Worldcat -- apparently self published. I have also nominated the page on the author for deletion, as all that he has done is written a few self-published books.  DGG ( talk ) 04:09, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - having hunted around, I can't seem to find any sources covering the work, which is more important than who the publisher is (although the publisher is, of course, indicative). Ironholds (talk) 05:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry I wasn't clear. The publisher wasn't really part of the reason. I mentioned it as an indication that there may be willful deception. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:45, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Totally; I wasn't trying to be snide, just clear about what I'd done. I trust you enough not to assume you just went "not heard of it, baleet!" ;p. Ironholds (talk) 05:46, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

The book was just published a few days ago, so Wordcat doesn't have it in their catalog yet. The Kindle edition of the book is currently #1 for the topic drug dependency on Amazon.com: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=792472497432755&set=a.789974017682603.1073741829.787081267971878&type=1&theater — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jess Franken (talk • contribs) 15:56, 5 January 2014 (UTC)  — Jess Franken (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * That's not exactly true. It's no. 1 among the grand total of 4 free books in their classification drug dependency. (there are 100s of  paid ones, including everything important.) If no library buys it, WorldCat will never have it.  That's the situation for about 95% of self-published books. The 5% that do show up in worldcat, characteristically are in two or three libraries where the author donates them and they decide to be friendly to a local author and catalog it. Of course, a few self published books each year do actually become notable, but he presumption is otherwise.  DGG ( talk ) 16:45, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * And, of course, simply being in WorldCat doesn't make the book notable. It proves it exists.Niteshift36 (talk) 19:39, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete Fails WP:GNG. Non-trivial coverage does not exist. -   t  u coxn \ talk 23:00, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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