Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sexual abuse cases in Brooklyn's Orthodox Jewish community


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Sexual abuse cases in Brooklyn's Orthodox Jewish community

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This is undue collation of facts, with possible synthesis implied through their collation. Don't see any indication of long-term notability or how these would pass WP:CRIME — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:32, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Not an encyclopedic topic. This is an attempt to string together essentially unrelated independent events under a single banner, very possibly to make some sort of nationalist political point. Yech. Carrite (talk) 17:35, 12 August 2012 (UTC) Last edit: Carrite (talk) 17:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Paying a quick visit to see other work of the content creator generated this TROUBLING DIFF. Carrite (talk) 17:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Striking. Pretty much run of the mill POV editing and outside of normal practice for notability debates. Carrite (talk) 17:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak keep Work in progess. Hathatehat (talk) 19:05, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 00:18, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 00:18, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep and clean up, possibly with move/rename. It is a fundamentally notable topic - check out the sources (NYT, for instance) which discuss individual incidents in relation to a broader trend. Crisco's statement that the collection of these incidents is synth is thus not borne out by the sources, which do link them together. (In the same way that "individual" Catholic child sex abuse cases are linked by reassignment and cover-ups, questionable admission of priests, and so on, sources point out issues that span cases: mesirah, internal/extra-judicial means of resolution...) Article most certainly needs to move away from "list of incidents" format; these are transitory, and foregrounding these case-spanning issues would be more beneficial to the reader. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 04:33, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Roscelese, although a re-title may be in order, and I'd want many eyes to prevent a POV sitation. Notable topic, but I'd also include other communities, perhaps across the United States. Bearian (talk) 21:31, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Roscelese, the Catholic parallel is telling. Open to rename. Johnbod (talk) 22:49, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Roscelese. I'm open to re-titling. LonelyBoy2012 (talk) 05:51, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Any suggestions? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:08, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sexual abuse in haredi communities in the United States? LonelyBoy2012 (talk) 07:05, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That would expand the scope quite a bit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:06, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
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