Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sexy Vegan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete per WP:SNOW ~Anachronist (talk) 04:00, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Sexy Vegan

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Subject of article is a non-notable YouTuber. Any coverage is from one legal incident, and other sources are gossip pages/tabloids or blogs. The article itself is a mess of BLP violations and gossip as well. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:00, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable youtuber with trivial coverage in mostly gossip rags and otherwise non-rs. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree that it should be deleted, but please note that yesterday it did have numerous notable sources, including from The New York Times, New York Daily News, several local newspapers and others. A user who is a self-proclaimed fan of the article subject went through and removed all of these sources, and then added a bunch of unsourced content. The article has been subject to a great deal of random editing that has made it unreliable, mostly from people who appear to be either the article subject himself, or fans of his who find his criminal conviction offensive. PetSematary182 (talk) 18:03, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of the past sources, I looked at those too and I just don't see the necessary coverage. PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:07, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You would probably be best to simply remove the article altogether, then. The article itself has become a mess and while I was able to find some other sources to back it up, I personally don't want to be involved in some edit war with a bunch of fans of this person, and I don't expect that anybody else would want to be involved with that, either. Where he is mostly just notable for his appearance on a talk show and his criminal conviction, there might be a way to merge the article as a smaller subsection, but otherwise it has just become too much of a mess and is not really reliable. PetSematary182 (talk) 18:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thats what this page is about. An AFD is a formal discussion regarding the candidacy of an article to be deleted. As an aside, if you don't want to be involved in an edit war, don't get involved in an edit war. GabberFlasted (talk) 18:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair point, but I didn't want the article messed up by somebody who had a conflict of interest. There were at least two unconfirmed members (at one point about a day ago, one of them chopped a huge section out and just wrote the word "sexy" with no context in the article, and as the original creator of the article, I was notified about it and tried to fix it. I was not aware at the time that Sexy Vegan was that much of a contentious figure, or that he had these fans. I probably should have treaded more lightly, which is my own fault for getting involed. PetSematary182 (talk) 18:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If this is deleted, you can work on this in your sandbox, or as a Draft, then have it looked at by editors that review new articles as well. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:27, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Bands and musicians, Crime, Internet,  and Illinois.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 18:14, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete As much as I loathe dirty topics like this, I spent a good bit of time trying to make this article work with sources provided by others and what I could find. At some point, swept through an deleted a large swath of what was in the article and I couldn't really argue with any of it. There just isn't enough coverage of the subject, and what coverage that does exist is tainted by the extremity of the stories, which make media outlets all the more eager to report on it without proper sources. Ultimately this person is only 'notable' for their Dr. Phil appearance and the charges leveled against them, not the actual convictions. GabberFlasted (talk) 18:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You are probably right. At this point, due to the contentious and sensational nature of the article subject, it might be best to just delete it; if better coverage comes up, a new version could always be reinstated, but until then, this whole thing is not really worth keeping. I do thank you for you efforts to keep this article neutral, though. Considering the controversial nature of it, you did an excellent job. PetSematary182 (talk) 18:21, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, I'm with GabberFlasted on this. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:24, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, the sourcing is all either passing mentions, like Sexy Vegan, running as an independent, will not be topping any polls, although he would have a distinct advantage on a crowded debate stage since his name is tattooed on his face. from a NYT opinion piece on the 739 candidates you've never heard of, or listicles and other unreliable sources. Her tale was tame in comparison to the teen whose mother wanted her to get into exotic dancing, or the young woman who believed she was pregnant with baby Jesus despite not being pregnant at all, or an unhinged personality who called himself simply “Sexy Vegan.” is the only mention from the Yahoo News/Fatherly source, Newsweek clickbait like the source used in this article is why it's not considered reliable at RSP anymore. I cleaned out a bunch of unsourced or unreliably sourced cruft, and I'm still digging through, but it doesn't seem worth saving. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient coverages in reliable sources. OhNo itsJamie Talk 18:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Per above. Patachonica (talk) 18:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Woof, what a mess. Del per WP:BLP1E and insufficient coverage in secondary sources.  Jip Orlando (talk) 19:33, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The New York Times coverage is literally a passing mention. There is limited coverage in reliable sources for his bizarre criminal conviction, and plenty of coverage in sensationalist unreliable sources. Acting strange on Dr. Phil is not a claim to notability. Cullen328 (talk) 20:30, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * everyone on Dr. Phil is strange PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:46, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, as a self-declared WP:IDONTLIKETHIS I won't be voting. But it does look like User:Kristin carlicci has been paid to get this article deleted. I suggest people look at the article and its sources before this editor started 'working' on it. SailingInABathTub (talk) 21:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * As much as I hate basically helping a paid editor, I still don't think he's notable, so there's not really much of a win here. PRAXIDICAE🌈 21:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That's disturbing. In any case, I still think the article should be deleted because there are a lot of sockpuppets making edits on it, and the manpower needed to maintain a neutral POV would be futile in that situation, but if I never had any personal opinion on this person before, I do now. Paying people money to have them purposely raise a big stink on Wikipedia and get articles deleted is a sneaky, underhanded and vain thing to do. I'm staying away from anything to do with this weirdo for now, because I don't want to be caught up in this mess right now. PetSematary182 (talk) 21:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I had the same suspicions myself. Don't want to really give someone their way when they're paying for edits, but at the end of the day I think the person's notability is trivial. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:06, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Appearing on Dr. Phil is not a sufficient claim to notabillity. NW1223&lt;Howl at me&bull;My hunts&gt; 01:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.