Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shabda Cayanika


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The result was   merge to Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar .  MBisanz  talk 17:36, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Shabda Cayanika

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Seems to fail the GNG; lacking substantial coverage by independent sources. bobrayner (talk) 15:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Like many articles in the Sarkarverse, it appears to have lots of citations and footnotes and so on; but the only real source is the book itself. bobrayner (talk) 00:10, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * merge with the article on the author. It is possible there is critical material on this from outside the movement, but I cannot find it. At present, there's nothing said here beyond what would fit there as a footnote or entry in a bibliographic list, because this is a collection of writings. (I'd suggest that might be the way to handle some of the other books listedin the Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar navbox.  DGG ( talk ) 01:33, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have been asked to reconsider my !vote. Rather, I confirm it.  DGG ( talk ) 03:05, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * article creator's comment: I will try to insert more secondary sources on it to show its aderence to the WP notability criteria. DGG: who asked you to reconsider your vote on this AfD? I had a look at your talk page but I didn't find anything. Thanks--Cornelius383 (talk) 17:24, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You did. bobrayner (talk) 17:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Please try to give a closer look at the title of the talk section (it's not referred to this AdF). I never asked to reconsider the vote to DGG! You're completely wrong.--Cornelius383 (talk) 18:05, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete or merge this infomercial. History2007 (talk) 01:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * article creator's comment: Just added more sources to the article. Thanks--Cornelius383 (talk) 15:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep: Good grief! There are 26 volumes in this original series of books! Certainly, the vast amount of material alone establishes some sort of presumption of notability. The series begins with the letter A and proceeds onwards in great depth through the Bengali language. While the overall topic is philology, the way in which this normally dry topic is presented brings the subject to life by touching on just about anything and everything. Unfortunately, I do not have the details - might take a while - but I have heard that this series of books is part of the curriculum on philology at one or more universities in Bangladesh. It might also be part of the studies at the college in Ananda Nagar. --Abhidevananda (talk) 21:49, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Lots of things are in alphabetical order. However, not every alphabetised pile of text is notable. bobrayner (talk) 22:25, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge to Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar. There is a lack of coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Location (talk) 02:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge. Re-create if there are multiple independent sources indicating that it meets notability for books. Can I just also note that works by Inayatullah would generally be RS for articles on Sarkar. Itsmejudith (talk) 10:53, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * delete The only book references to this that I could find were two very minor treatises, one a very confused bit of cosmological nonsense and the other a tract against wife beating by someone whom I gather is associated with Sarkar's movements. Mangoe (talk) 15:54, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge to Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar per WP:SIGCOV. This book lacks significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Correct Knowledge  «৳alk»  21:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Jay Jay What did I do? 00:35, 18 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Editor's note: This book is a part of the vast literary heritage of Shrii Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar and it's one of the various articles related with Sarkar, that I recentely wrote on WP and that have been proposed for deletion by BobRainer. Have we to prefer an encyclopaedia representing the various aspects of human knowledge or have we to continuosly propose for deletion all that we don't like/agree? It's very easy to delete an article but it's more difficoult to build one, or constructively help to support/expand/improve it. As a relatively recent editor I ask me: is it more useful to see in WP some experienced editors (strengthened by their advanced procedural knowledge and by a discrete logistical support of a few others) engaged almost exclusively in the easy work of deletion rather than in the more difficoult task of articles' creation and improvement? I hope you all will understand if I express here my strong complaint but I don't really even know where to write it.--Cornelius383 (talk) 08:59, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
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