Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shadow Cabinet of Harold Wilson


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Shadow Cabinet of Harold Wilson

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Not encyclopedic, WP:IINFO, only list members of shadow cabinet. Would take a major rewrite. Preferred to redirect to Harold Wilson, but was reverted by creator. Recommend redirect or deletion. GregJackP  Boomer!   17:52, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Redirect: The topic is undoubtedly notable, but this... creation... needs a complete rework. Better to redirect than keep. -- BenTels (talk) 19:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: Before today's edit I had rather seen this article go that stay because having nothing was better than having what was there. But User:Colonel Warden has cleaned the mess up sufficiently that I now feel the article should stay. Compliments to the Colonel. -- BenTels (talk) 18:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * userfy or redirect the article can be moved to the creator's sandbox and can be worked on there. Right now, the article needs an uplift. --   Luke      (Talk)   23:38, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep looks better now. --   Luke      (Talk)   01:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 01:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * • Gene93k (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep Our editing policy is to improve first drafts not to delete them. The nominator first used ordinary editing and just seems to be coming to AFD to win the edit war.  See List of British shadow cabinets for numerous other similar articles.  Warden (talk) 09:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Please WP:AGF. First, there was no edit war.  When I looked at the article, it was in much worse shape than it is now, to the point that I felt it was better to redirect and/or delete it.  So I redirected it to Harold Wilson.  If the article is improved where it is more that a one paragraph list of names and dates, I don't have a problem with keeping it.   GregJackP   Boomer!   11:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I don't see any clear reasons to delete. What's so bad about the article that it can't be improved? Shadow cabinets typically attract press coverage en masse, listing them is clearly not indiscriminate, and it would seem to meet WP:L and likely to meet WP:GNG. A merge might be possible, but nobody has suggested it's necessary. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep -- This is essnetially is list of the opposition front bench spokeman. I can only imagine that the person who nominated this has no knowledge of British politics.  A redirect to a Prime Minister would be inappropriate because the subject is too important.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - You are correct that this is essnetially [sic] a list of the opposition leaders. I can only imagine that the person that nominated this article when it was first created (i.e., the first entry in article history) realized that the article was a disgrace, completely different from the present article.  Of course, that might take some extra effort.   GregJackP   Boomer!   17:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
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