Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shadrach (song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 00:37, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Shadrach (song)

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This Beastie Boys' song does not meet the criteria for notability WP:SONG. PROD was removed with the edit line stating "Prod declined, take it to AfD" Untick (talk) 05:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC) 
 * Delete, I don't see any notability. What is this article about? "Shadrach" or the An Evening At Home With Shadrach, Meshach And Abednego EP? Deletion Mutation  17:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: also see Articles for deletion/Shambala (Beastie Boys song). Deletion Mutation  17:33, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Blocked sockpuppet. NuclearWarfare  ( Talk ) 20:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:01, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete: article seems to be confused on whether it's discussing a song or an EP. The Beastie Boys song in itself is not notable (although there is an unconnected traditional gospel song with the same name). No evidence it charted, no covers, not-notable. JamesBurns (talk) 08:45, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Rolling Stone once named this as one of the 100 greatest music videos of all time (RS 667, October 14, 1993).SPNic (talk) 14:58, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —94.196.163.252 (talk) 10:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as a non-plausible search term, fails notability per WP:MUSIC. Take your pick whether it is wiki#songs or wiki#albums, the lack significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources means it fails at both. If sources show it was voted in the 100 greatest music videos, then that would be nice for a passing mention in the parent Beastie Boys article, but that isn't enough for a stand alone article.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 23:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Paul's Boutique. I don't see how this isn't a plausible search term. JuJube (talk) 08:46, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Changing vote to Keep per Starblind's excellent research. JuJube (talk) 23:37, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable single. In just a short time I was able to find a number of sources, including this New York Times article, where Shadrach is preesented as an example of Jewish music for a program at the New England Conservatory.  The Beastie Boys biography Paul's Boutique (ISBN 0826417418) devotes 4 pages to the song (97-100), where it is described as the album's "most important track".  A book called Rolling Stone's Alt Rock-A-Rama (ISBN 0385313608) names it one of the "20 most influential alt-rock videos".  The video is further discussed in a book called Icons of Hip-Hop (ISBN 0313339031), page 105-106.  The song gets an entire page of text (p. 227) in The heebie-jeebies at CBGB's: a secret history of Jewish punk (ISBN 155652613X).  And even the cover art gets its due in a Japanese book called Hip Hop Cover Art (ISBN 4925112538).  Again, these sources were not hard to  find, and someone knowledgable about rap could probably find much more.  But it's more than enough to justify an article. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  16:10, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per Andrew Lenahan. Hiding T 18:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


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