Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaggy dog story


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was speedy keep as original nomination was on based on a reverted revision of the article, and upon WP:SNOW as not even the nominator has argued to delete. —Doug Bell talk 22:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Shaggy dog story

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Laundry list of examples of joke. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Google search proves type of joke exists but does not return any results conferring enough notability to warrant its own page. Merge to Joke under type of jokes. &mdash; O cat ecir  Talk  02:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - 'shaggy dog story' is a commonly used expression. I think it's important to identify where the name comes from. Perhaps the other examples could be trimmed, but the existence of this article does no harm. - Richardcavell 02:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup. The article is not in a good state, but there's no real problem with having an article on the topic. --N Shar (talk • contribs) 02:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 *  Delete  Utterly pointless and overly long collection of "jokes," but then again, maybe that was the point (note: get it?). Uggh.  Wavy G 03:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Changing vote per Uncle G's cleanup. And someone let the user(s) who keep adding the joke sections back in what Wikipedia is and what it is not. Wavy G 22:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, recommend cleanup. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 03:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Cleanup and keep The jokes themselves should be cut back until they just show the structure, not the whole text. - Richfife 03:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep the article but lose all of the stories. Otto4711 03:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep but cleanup. Suggest using The Aristocrats (joke) as a possible template. 23skidoo 04:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Abstain Cman 05:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup per N Shar. —Doug Bell talk 05:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup Certainly a notable enough type of joke to warrant its own article. However, examples should be kept in check.  Pig manTalk to me 06:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep needs cleanup. JuJube 06:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean up. Gazpacho 06:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep definitely notable enough, I'm sure I can come up with some sources. --Canley 09:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean up. But maybe the expression is more common in the UK than other countries, hence some of the confusion about its notability?  If that is the case (can anyone help here?) then that should be added to the article.  Robinson weijman 11:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Shaggy-dog story is also a well-known expression in America. —Doug Bell talk 15:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Please note that I and other editors spent a lot of effort over the past couple of months getting rid of the long laundry list of jokes and working towards a proper encyclopaedia article. There's a long discussion about the list on the article's talk page.  The reason that the article was in a bad state was that 74.98.172.130 reverted all of that effort with a misleading edit summary.  Please check an article's history and talk page before nominating it for deletion.  I've restored the newer version of the article, which was already sourced and cleaned up. Uncle G 10:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. A well known subcategory or format for jokes. - Smerdis of Tlön 15:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. --Xnuala 16:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article is concise and well-sourced.  None of the comments are applicable to this version (a revert of 74.98.172.130).  -- Black Falcon 18:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep in its current form; nice job, Uncle G and others, in creating an article that adequately explains the concept. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm getting to the party late, but in its current form looks like a "keep and cleanup" article. The article demonstrate the phrase's common usage and provides more than a standard dictionary definition of the term. Dugwiki 22:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.