Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shagun Butani


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Shagun Butani

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Doesn't meet WP:ANYBIO. Both references in the article and the ones I found through WP:BEFORE are simply announcement of performances or brief mentions in reviews about specific performances (about the performances and mention her in the body). Nothing that talks about her in-depth. CNMall41 (talk) 06:47, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete- Only passing mentions no in-depth coverage fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. - FitIndia  Talk Commons 09:26, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment as creator - Notability is established in the given citations. This The Hindu article is in-depth and notes that she is "among the very few women performers of Seraikella Chhau in the country." This whole Daily Pioneer is about her and her Odissi dance practice. This Hindustan Times article starts with "a renowned Odissi dancer". This Asian Age article clearly states "the ever lovely Seraikella Chhau and Odissi exponent" and all other refs suggest notability. The given citations could have been more adequately examined. As has been stated a million times on these portals, and bears repeating, AfD is not cleanup... Regards, BahrdozsBulafka (talk) 10:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I started to go through these one-by-one but stopped after the first. The Hindu article is not about her. It is about an event organized by her organization and has a quote from her. This is in no way in-depth coverage about a person. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It was a mistake to stop after The Hindu. If you had proceeded, after reading in The Hindu that she is "among the very few women performers of Seraikella Chhau in the country.", you would have found the The Pioneer link which is entirely about her, her journey and practice. But thanks to this nomination and your prodding, I dug deeper and found this 1997 New York Times article which has the line "Shagun Butani, a specialist in the Orissi dance of East India, opened the concert by bowing reverently to the elephant-headed god Ganesh". Another article I found is in The New Indian Express about her performance. If she was reported as an Odissi specialist in 1997 by a global newspaper and whose performances are announced, reported and covered in national Indian newspapers, the article is already appearing a little too late on Wikipedia. Add to it the fact that she is one of a handful of women dancers of Chhau, usually a male-dominated dance form, in the country, and its notability isn't in question. So, in light of new evidence, please do consider withdrawing this nomination and, if that isn't possible, please do reassess the evidence and reconsider your vote. There is already a gender imbalance on Wikipedia, and it shouldn't be compounded.. Regards, BahrdozsBulafka (talk) 09:58, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I would actually say it was more of a mistake to include a link to a reference you say is in-depth when it wasn't. I also looked at the New Indian Express (the NYT is behind paywall and I dont have my login handy at the moment) and that is simply an announcement of an upcoming performance with nothing really of substance other than a blip from the person's bio. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I do have my NY Times login handy. The New York times article saying "specialist" in this sense doesn't really mean much. If it had been a question about Indrani, who the article says "is a noted Indian dancer" that's something, but a "specialist" just means one who specializes, it doesn't mean that that person is necessarily a standout or world-renowned or anything.--Jahaza (talk) 00:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete there seems to be a lack of significant, in-depth coverage of the subject from reliable third-party sources. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 18:05, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


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