Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shahkulu Sons


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify. Salvio 21:57, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Shahkulu Sons

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This is an article full of orthographical inaccuracies sourced with a single source of an not very known author and it is not clear if the article is about an Emirate or sons. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:41, 27 July 2020 (UTC) :Delete - appears to fail google test and GNG.  Wiki Macaroons Cinnamon? 16:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The article has been moved to the draft space by now, so the author can work on it. As to me, this is fair.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:13, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

CommentAh no, the article was already published on the 26th and moved then to the draft space, check https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Şahkulu_Sons&action=history on the 27th. Then the author republished it afterwards...Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:17, 27 July 2020 (UTC) enough resources and information added


 * Great, I left several invisible comments and made the article at least a little more understandable. This doesn't imply it is right what I copyedited, as I didn't check the sources. Still, a lot remains unclear, are the Shakhulu Sons now a Principality or a Dynasty, if they are a Dynasty, who is its founder...? And so on...I still propose to move the article to the draft space, where Frat can work on it and clarify some issues.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:52, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:25, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:25, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep (or drafify) and let the creator tidy it up. The source cited appears to be a university publication about a petty state, existing c.1548-1608.  We are probably dealing with an article by a non-native English speaker and there may be a translation difficulty.  The source says "Pinyaşi government" so that Pinyaşi principality might be the better name with Pinyasi principality created as a redirect (to avoid the need to type diacriticals.  I know nothing of the subject, but assume good faith.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:18, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Sources show notability, although a lot of clean-up needed. Bondegezou (talk) 18:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Changed vote, could be cleaned up.  Wiki Macaroons Cinnamon? 14:02, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:52, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Draftify per Paradise Chronicle. Give the creator and others a chance to improve it to the point where it is ready for mainspace (if possible).  // Timothy ::  talk  16:32, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Draftify, as above, to allow incubation and bringing it up to a state where it won't be quickly nominated again for deletion. Ifnord (talk) 17:30, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.