Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shahzad Rizvi


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The result was   delete. J04n(talk page) 11:03, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Shahzad Rizvi

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I came across this after seeing one of his books up for PROD. I redirected that article to Rizvi's, as well as redirecting the other self-published novels he wrote, but after looking at the author's page for a little while I realized that there were a lack of sources that established notability. A search brought up nothing to show that his books are ultimately notable or that he passes notability guidelines. I'm bringing it here for further discussion rather than just PRODing it, in the hopes that there might be sources in another language. I have no issue with the original editor userfying the content, but at this point in time he isn't notable. Rizvi has written books, but they are all self-published and have received no coverage. He's worked as a professor and civil servant, but I don't see where he passes WP:PROF, WP:GNG, or WP:AUTHOR. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:24, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Should all the book articles that were created also be brought here so they too can have an AfD? Bgwhite (talk) 07:55, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I redirected all of them to the author's article, but I don't mind unredirecting them if you think it might be a better course of action to unredirect and bundle them here. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete All the books are self-published via Lulu.  Unable to find anything except on social sites and book selling sites.  All info from the sites are the same.  His website doesn't help much.  The book articles were all copyvios of his website.  Looks like he received his PhD from Wayne State in 1970.  His dissertation was on UNESCO television projects.  The creating editor has upload alot of photos of him with famous people, such as Ronald Reagan, but there is no context to tell what he is doing except for posing for a photo. I can't find anything about the books that would make any of them notable either.  Bgwhite (talk) 07:55, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * He doesn't appear to be notable as an author to me.  However, these lines in the bio "Dr. Rizvi has served as a White House interpreter, and taught languages to diplomats at the Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. State Department. Since 2000, Dr. Rizvi has served the federal government in international affairs."  raise some question as to his role with the government.  (1) "has served as a White House interpreter" suggests more than a single instance.  Would a White House interpreter necessarily be notable within the world of interpreters?  If "White House interpreter" is a permanent position, then I could see an argument for notability there; just like chefs, gardeners, etc., would probably be notable if they are out of the WH.  OTOH if there is an enormous cadre of WH interpreters then maybe not.  (2) "has served the federal government" seems rather vague, but perhaps there's something there.  So -- I'm open to hearing more information explaining the possible notability of the WH interpreter position, or just what exactly he does to "serve the federal government".  If none is forthcoming then I would userify or delete. --Lquilter (talk) 20:39, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't necessarily think that a translator position is really the type of thing that would give notability. You have to have a good proficiency in the language you're translating for, but it's something you're hired to do. It's not a position that you're elected for and it's not exactly a position filled only by a few people. I don't think that someone would really have notability as the permanent gardener of the White House, so by extension the same works here. From the way things are phrased in the article, I don't think this is a permanent daily position in any case. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:39, 30 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete for failing WP:AUTHOR and WP:BOOK. Qworty (talk) 05:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Delete As per Qworty Uncletomwood (talk) 14:23, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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