Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shallow water blackout


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Keep / withdrawn by nominator, article is moving in the right direction, initial concerns no longer apply --W.marsh 15:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Shallow water blackout
Wikipedia is not a how-to guide. W.marsh 06:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Can the author prove it is his own work? This PDF contains the text and says The following article was published by Swim SA in the February/March 2004 “sa swimmer”. The article was originally copied from the internet. But the PDF don't have the pics so it is not a copyvio from the PDF. -- RHaworth 06:59, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Recreation of deleted article, per WP:CSD G4 See Block Log: Shallow water blackout --Lightdarkness 07:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Ignore the speedy delete - W.marsh who did that delete now accepts the repost and has brought the article here. -- RHaworth 07:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Good enough for me :-) --Lightdarkness 07:31, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the confusion and weirdness, I should have pointed out in the nomination I decided this should come to AfD (and restored the deleted version, though I don't think there were any differences). --W.marsh 07:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep providing not a copyvio, but rewrite slightly as "what happens and why" rather than "how to avoid". The urge to breathe is triggered by high carbon dioxide levels not low oxygen levels is a very encyclopedic fact. We also need an article on Chain-Stokes breathing which is related but happens to mountaineers. -- RHaworth 07:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Primary author. The pdf article referred to in Swim SA you will note is by Jeremy Watson, I am Jeremy Watson and I wrote it for the Northern Territory branch of the Surf Life Saving Association for teaching purposes after two unexplained drownings in Darwin, I expect it will appear multiple elsewheres, I have no idea where, I know it's in the USA. I wrote it because I have not seen a clear explanation elswhere. I am a divemaster.  I have now substanitally rewritten this for a different audience, hoping its closer to Wikispeak. Ex nihil 10:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep but cleanup and wikify as the page needs to be brought up to the WP standards for articles.  (aeropagitica)   08:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Primary author I have rewritten and wikified about as far as I am able. As the original author I think I've about finished with it.  Comment welcome. Ex nihil 09:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article is coming along.  It is a very important topic--one of the most important on Wikipedia.  I have verified it through Google and added a category and external links (not signed in at the time).   Logophile 10:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Impressive progress in the past few hours. KrazyCaley 12:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Verifiable, notable. Nice artwork to boot! Ifnord 14:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.