Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shams Ali Qalandar


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Shams Ali Qalandar

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Non-notable religious leader. Apparently known from a single book of poetry which he wrote, and in which the publisher added biographical details in posthumous editions. No independent reliable sources to be found. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:44, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Locally renowned Sufi Saint in the country, with following in several cities in Punjab & Sindh Province of Pakistan & Sufi Saints are not solely known or become notable because of Books (in these regions)there cause of fame/notability  are the teachings , and direct interactions with people i.e cann't be limited to "known from a single book" , and also the book is not simple piece of poetry ,the mentioned in article book contains Poetic verses of Sufi Text as mentioned in the article. Less number of sources, are due to less use of IT resources in the area,while citations can be found in local literature , local news, Citations regarding these types of figures are less common as compared to Political or other figures. Additional citations will be added soon, I recommend adding header message for more citations and improvement but the article should not be deleted ,and for deletion message should be removed as Wikipedia Guidelines state that Sources are not required to be available online , or be in english language and the number of sources can vary!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOURCEACCESS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NONENGAnasahmed24
 * Comment Unfortunately, such local "word of mouth" renown is not really sufficient for inclusion in Wikipedia. We require reliable sources, that are available for other editors to examine, to verify the content of the article. If there are other sources (printed sources that are not available online are OK as long as they are publicly available), please add them.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:00, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:00, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:00, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:01, 30 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. The sources are one non-reliable website, one blog and one book which isn't properly cited. Notability isn't established by that, and frequently articles on South Asian Muslim clerics pop up regardless of how obscure they were even in their own societies. Holding to WP:GNG should be the same here as anywhere else. This article clearly fails that guideline. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:22, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.