Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shannon Region


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Mid-West Region, Ireland. The articles do cover the same material so a merge is appropriate. There is a question, briefly alluded to in the discussion, but not fully dealt with, as to which title is more appropriate - Shannon Region is used by sources rather more than Mid-West Region. I'll close as merge to Mid-West Region, Ireland, and then look at renaming that article to Shannon Region  SilkTork   ✔Tea time  12:04, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Shannon Region

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 * Nominator's rationale Apologies for all the confusion and thanks to those who have left messages. Really, this is a most unsatisfactory process and needs to be fixed. Anyway. The article mimics Mid-West Region, Ireland. Also, the areas listed, County Limerick, County Clare, North Tipperary etc all have their own sections on visitor attractions and geographic features. The article is pointless duplication and has no official status. It's just a random grouping of certain Counties of Ireland. Laurel Lodged (talk) 19:47, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Fixing nomination; discussion was redlinked in the log. I've left a message on the nominator's talk page, I expect they'll be along shortly to provide their deletion rationale. I remain neutral. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 22:55, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


 * No Opinion at this time, not my nomination, the actual nominator was User:Laurel Lodged (dont know how my name got crossed with hers. perhaps a Ghostbuster crossed the streams:))Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Apologies, don't know what happened there! Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 01:19, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Shannon Region may consist of smaller geographic entities that all have their own articles, but it does not appear to be a random assortment of counties. There is coverage of the region's economy, including the tourism industry, and appears in travel guides, and is called out specifically by the Irish Tourist Board. The coverage in multiple independent reliable sources indicate that Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines are satisfied for this topic. -- Whpq (talk) 16:11, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment The word "Region" in the title implies that it some official imprimateur; it does not. The article itself says that the region is also called the Mid-West Region; if this is true then the latter article has preference and this article should be deleted; if it is not true then the reference needs to be removed. There are two portions of two counties that the article claims are part of the region - bits of County Offaly and County Kerry. These bits fall outside the Mid-West Region. However, they overlap nicely with the geographic remit of the Shannon Development company. So this raises the question of whether this article is just Shannon Development by another name? If so, it should be deleted and let Shannon Development do the job. If not, then what extra bits does it have that are in neither of the other articles but which are so unique and notable as to belong solely to this article? In my opinion, the answer to that question is "nothing". Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sources quoted The first source seems to use the remit of Shannon Development. The second and third sources contain the phrase "Shannon Region" only - they do not define the remit. The last source uses the phrase in the context of the middle to lower stretches of the River Shannon and specifically mixes in Athlone which is County Longford and Roscommon. So at best, it would seems that this article should be a re-direct for either Shannon Development or the Mid-West Region. Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:37, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 01:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)




 * Delete - Or at least redirect if not delete. This article is largely redundant with Mid-West Region, Ireland and if the so-called Shannon region is "unofficial" then this article would seem superfluous. Peppy Fazoo (talk) 00:22, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.