Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shanti Wintergate


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The result was   no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 15:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Shanti Wintergate

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No reasonable assertion of notability. No significant successes as a singer or as a writer. No noted hits in any country. No external refs to support any of the content. Very outdated.  Velella  Velella Talk 22:14, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 * A simple google search confirms everything stated in the summary paragraph, notable to an underground/alt audience. Writer credits include author of children's book, web searches confirm music releases and placement.  TV appearances confirmed.  Place of birth, relationship.  I don't know how to update or link to external references or I would do it.  NPR just did a review on new music project.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.28.151 (talk) 22:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


 *  Comment Delete I've also carried out a 'simple google search' and can't see much about her. With a name like that, it should be fairly easy to find significant news coverage, if it existed! I'm inclined to recommend deletion and, as an unsourced CV it would've been a candidate for speedy deletion. However, I've found some mention in a local news article about her husband and added it to the article. If IP 72 has access to reviews or news articles, they can follow my example to add the sources. Sionk (talk) 02:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Having looked at the long list of links provided by IP 72 I can't see any that are sufficient to support an article about Wintergate. She has evidently published some EP's and tracks, but none seem to have had any noticeable success. The coverage in Boise Weekly (a very local but reliable source) seeme to be about her participation in Play Date, a "children's music duo" collaboration with her husband. The Punk News website does not seem to be a reliable news source, as it takes user submissions from anywhere. The article at the moment is a poorly sourced CV, unfortunately. That being said, she's clearly a talented entertainer so I wish her solo success for the future! Currently fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Sionk (talk) 10:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know how to cite sources at all on wikipedia..... but here are links that confirm alot of information on this page. sorry, I don't know how wikipedia works... maybe someone can help cite these.   By the way... it's a fairly poor article to represent the husband.  That article speaks about her and her husband and their children's project.  here is more there's much more on the husbands name and band The Bouncing Souls...
 * http://www.npr.org/2012/12/12/167048218/the-boogers-and-play-date-make-punk-rock-for-kids NPR:Music - All Things Considered
 * http://www.zooglobble.com/blog/2012/9/6/interview-greg-attonito-shanti-wintergate-play-date.html -6 September 2012
 * http://punkmusic.about.com/od/Punkrockparenting/fr/Shanti-Wintergate-And-Greg-Attonito-I-Went-For-A-Walk.htm - Sept 2012
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/48499/interviews-play-date - 14 August 2012
 * http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2012/09/bouncing_souls_23.html Sept 2012
 * http://www.ampmagazine.com/45593/play-date-feat-greg-attonito-and-shanti-wintergate-premiere-video-for-new-song-dance-like-a-monster/
 * http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2167183/ IMDB- Shanti Wintergate (CSI:NY)
 * http://www.app.com/viewart/20121116/NJENT0101/121116003/The-66-Sessions-Play-Date-Greg-Attonito-Bouncing-Souls-his-wife-Shanti-Wintergate 16 Nov 2012
 * http://www.elvisduran.com/pages/independentminded.html?article=10537146 Z100 Radio Interview - Ronnie Scalzo]
 * http://www.app.com/viewart/20121116/NJENT0101/121116003/The-66-Sessions-Play-Date-Greg-Attonito-Bouncing-Souls-his-wife-Shanti-Wintergate Asbury Park Press - The 66 Sessions
 * http://indianapolis.metromix.com/events/article/singer-actress-shanti-helps/644417/content 30 July 2008
 * http://conversationswithbianca.com/my_interviews/shanti-wintergate/
 * http://themusicmoms.com/music-2/music/reviews-play-date-imagination-and-kepi-ghoulie-kepi-for-kids
 * http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/losing-sense-of-time/content?oid=1372588
 * http://alarm-magazine.com/2007/bouncing-souls-frontman-and-wife-author-childrens-book/
 * http://www.readjunk.com/news/music/greg-attonito-the-bouncing-souls-and-shanti-wintergate-play-date-announce-debut-album-titled-imagination/
 * https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/issue-oriented-hosted-by-ronen/id74848438
 * https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/stranger-days/id288621009
 * https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/this-moment/id189486449
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/37129/kevin-seconds-kepi-ghoulie-greg-attonito-and-shanti-wintergate
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/41620/tours-greg-attonito-shanti-wintergate-acousticart
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/48499/interviews-play-date
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/25774/bouncing-soul-greg-attonitos-book-i-went-for-a-walk-video-online
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/49107/play-date-dance-like-a-monster
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/46284/mike-park-announces-fun-fun-records
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/23340/greg-from-bouncing-souls-publishing-new-childrens-book
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/38254/tours-greg-attonito-bouncing-souls-kevin-seconds-7-seconds-on-vespa-tour
 * http://www.punknews.org/article/7658/here-we-go-compilation-available
 * http://www.discogs.com/Kepi-Ghoulie-TRex-Trax/release/3926855
 * http://blogcritics.org/books/article/interview-with-shanti-wintergate-and-gregory/
 * http://www.independent.com/events/2012/nov/10/27183/
 * http://lineout.thestranger.com/lineout/archives/2011/03/07/video-from-saturdays-greg-attonitoshanti-wintergate-art-opening
 * http://ghettoblastermagazine.com/2012/greg-attonito-bouncing-souls-shanti-wintergate-team-for-play-date/
 * http://hangout.altsounds.com/news/152944-play-date-feat-greg-attonito-shanti-wintergate.html
 * http://newnoisesb.org/show.cfm?id=85436
 * http://www.chriswardman.com/artists/shanti-wintergate
 * http://www.ctindie.com/2010/06/greg-attonito-kevin-seconds-shanti.html
 * http://www.boiseweekly.com/Cobweb/archives/2012/11/30/scenes-from-a-scene-056play-date
 * http://www.boiseweekly.com/Cobweb/archives/2012/10/28/play-date-gets-kids-groovin-at-the-crux
 * http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/play-date-to-play-date-in-boise/Content?oid=2750887
 * Hope this helps. I in no way intend to be unthoughtful with putting all of these links here.  I don't know the guidelines of commenting in this space.  I just mean to help here.  There are also photos and videos from her on 2006 and 2008 Warped Tour among other live performances but I have even less of a clue about citing these.  They've been on on a the Music TV network Fuse in the US "Stevens Untitled" rock show of which there's a You Tube video of as well.
 * Again. Maybe someone can do something with these links, because I don't know how.
 * I noticed that she went under the name Shanti (only) for her solo music projects. Maybe that ads to confusion in the searches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.28.151 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 20 December 2012‎ (UTC)
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 * Keep and fix. When one considers WP:NRVE and looks at the sources provided, while a few are not the best, it would seem that the nominator's concerns about a lack of sources to verify article content is an addressable issue, and that the GNG is met through enough independent sources speaking toward the subject and her work in enough non-trivial detail to maintain an encyclopedic article. The SNGs do not overrule the GNG, as they are intended to support it, not supplant it. And the concern "Very outdated" is a reason to allow it be fixed over time and through regular editing... and not to delete  because it has not yet been done.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:12, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think there's just about enough for an article. If we had an article on Play Date I may have gone for a merge there since most of the coverage seems to relate to that, and this would be an option if that article was to be created. --Michig (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
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