Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaolin Traitorous


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nom - sources are good for SIGCOV, per Ganbaruby. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 04:17, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Shaolin Traitorous

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De-PRODded with the edit summary "deproded. Article can obviously be improved and de-orphaned"; no sources were added and no improvements were made, of course.

Prior to my PROD, I did as thorough of a BEFORE check as I can for an English speaker and found nothing except trivial mentions in lists and database listings (oh, and pirate sites). No doubt the movie exists, but is it notable per WP:NFILM? Not as far as I can find. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:00, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Note. Deproder here. Personal attacks don't help. I have added the Chinese name of the movie and de-orphaned the article at the time of the deproding. Minor improvements, I agree, but "no improvements were made, of course" is inaccurate. I have helped substantially improve HK movies articles in the past, and by experience decent sources can often be found, mostly in Chinese language after some serious digging is performed. I wish this can be done for this article, hence my deproding, which as expected is triggering an AfD, which will attract more attention than a PROD and which hopefully will see a poor stub being converted into a decent article. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 22:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for removing the prod and for your improvements to the article, . I agree that for Hong Kong movie articles, "by experience decent sources can often be found, mostly in Chinese language after some serious digging is performed". This is the case here. Cunard (talk) 10:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

* Delete: Fails GNG/NFILM. Nothing on a WP:BEFORE. Kolma8 (talk) 00:07, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , I asked Ganbaruby (who commented below, and who can read Chinese) to have a look at Cunard's references, and they've confirmed it constitutes SIGCOV (as opposed to just trivial mentions or ads or something), so I'd like to move for withdrawl - will you strike your vote so I can do so? &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 06:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Premeditated Chaos, you got it. Kolma8 (talk) 04:12, 28 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Note 2. I have made improvements to the article and added an English language ref: a PhD thesis that details the movie and uses it as an example across 14 pages. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 02:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.     </li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Shaolin Traitorous to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 10:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC) </li></ul> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 23:46, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've reviewed the Chinese-language sources above, and I can confirm that there is WP:SIGCOV here. You could build a "Production" header here, and also use the review in the second source for a "Critical reception". ◢ <i style="background-color:#F7E3F7; color:#960596"> Ganbaruby! </i>  (talk) 06:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


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