Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shattered (2010 film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Shattered (2010 film)

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Related to this AfD. Yet another movie with no assertion of notability. The article creator, Indie Movies, is constantly adding (and, in some cases, readding previously deleted) non-notable films and has been brought up on the conflict of interest noticeboard twice now (the latest showing that the IP may be a sockpuppet), bringing to light that every other film is released by Maverick Entertainment Group. Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 22:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: These three AfDs are also related.
 * Articles for deletion/Gang Girl
 * Articles for deletion/Carlita's Secret
 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/F4:Vortex
 * That's all of them so far. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 22:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: New AfD has appeared here. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 19:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Clarification: For the record, lack of an assertion of notability isn't a basis for article deletion, and the speedy deletion provision regarding lack of assertion of significance or importance only covers people, animals, groups of various sorts, and websites. Lack of actual notability is, of course, a different matter. —Largo Plazo (talk) 23:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete:Agreed, I can't find coverage in reliable sources for this film, which, by the way, is a straight-to-DVD production. —Largo Plazo (talk) 23:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Looks like a legitimate film, not a hoax. Has some value because of the other film called "Shattered" (1991). Judith Merrick (talk) 21:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC) See legitimate film review here http://filmnashville.org/chris-st-croix-secures-distribution-for-shattered/ and the film being sold on amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/Shattered-Amanda-Bailey/dp/B0031KQNUW
 * Comment: You're a brand new editor, so I can understand not knowing about this, but read this essay. Just because one thing exists as an article does not mean that another article automatically has the right to exist. Secondly, what sources do you have to show that it's a "legitimate film" (though I actually accused it of having no notability which is a separate issue)? -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 22:00, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment:' Judith Merrick removed her comment here. I re-added it but struck it as I remember seeing back when I first started on Wikipedia an editor state that comments on AfDs should not be removed completely and I have so far not seen anything to contradict this. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 22:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If you're going to put it back, then I prefer to keep it in its entirety because I still prefer keep. Judith Merrick (talk) 00:29, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: What I put back was all you'd put up at that point. -- Thejadefalcon Sing your song The bird's seeds 00:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: I know it isn't clear to someone new, but deletion discussion aren't votes, they're attempts to establish consensus, rooted in Wikipedia's guidelines and policies. The criterion cited in the deletion request was WP:Notability. Being "legitimate" (whatever that means), not being a hoax, and having a name similar to the name of another film about which Wikipedia has an article, don't prevent a film from falling short of the notability criteria for inclusion. As for the link you provided, what it leads to isn't a review, let alone an independent one, it's a press release from the film's production company.—Largo Plazo (talk) 02:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree with the nom. Not seeing the notability. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.