Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shattered Allegiance


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 08:00, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Shattered Allegiance

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Not Notable. Possible COI see Paul Winston. How many awards does a student film have to have to make it notable? As I understood it, it is hard not to get a best ‘something’ award at these festivals. The have almost as many cats as films to award. Example: To see some of it, this film has a clip on myspace  More sites (links to video don’t seem to work very well) and Aspro (talk) 18:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * delete, nice try at a movie. judging from clip seems filmed well, but the acting seems to fall a bit amateurish. sure, try filming, make a career, do good. but do not use Wiki to advertise as a shortcut. WildHorsesPulled (talk) 00:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete for lack of notability. This film did NOT win the 2009 Best American Short Film at Swansea; that recognition went to a film called "The Alley" by a totally different director. (link)  I realise that claim is backed by some of the sources linked in the article but I don't know how to reconcile that with the evidence of the Festival's own website other than to assume they've confused "nominated" with "won", a hoax is being perpretrated or the other sources aren't reliable/independent. The film has been featured (without winning anything) at a number of non-notable film festivals but without the Swansea win it's not notable per any criterion of WP:FILM or WP:N. - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:26, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with DFW - this did not win Best Short Film at Swansea. I would trust the official Swansea site over the source in the article. I've removed the claim. Does not meet WP:FILM.  Jujutacular  T · C 18:33, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —  Jujutacular  T · C 18:33, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice. Perhaps even send to WP:INCUBATE while more is forthcoming. Though it did not win Best American Short Film at Swansea, it was at least nominated . The multiple award nominations are suggestive of this film perhaps proving worthy of inclusion at a later date.  Not enough yet... but perhaps the article might be welcomed back in a few months.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.