Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaw Academy


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The result was keep, and not just due to vote count. The sources provided by Cunard adequately demonstrate significant coverage although the last one seems to be a blog. But as Murry1975 noted, "barely passing" WP:CORPDEPTH is still passing. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:08, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Shaw Academy

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Created by an openly COI/SPA editor. Nothing to the article. Institution is not notable. No real press coverage from recognised publications apart from the huffpo article (the independent one is more of a classified listing) Rayman60 (talk) 14:40, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. They run a variety of online courses in the fi3eld of business, for individuals and companies. They don't award degrees. The references aren't real--the one in The Independent is a straightforward advertisement.  DGG ( talk ) 00:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete also, because this is another newly founded company with none of the coverage being solid enough. SwisterTwister   talk  00:41, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi I have added more reliable sources, Shaw Academy teaches about 55,000 new students each month. AdianPhy (talk) 18:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * Note: Editor is SPA with an openly declared COI. It should be noted when considering notability of subject, that some of this large number of students would be from promotions such as a wowcher £19 course or this £1.99 course Rayman60 (talk) 19:49, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep it passes WP:GNG. Murry1975 (talk) 19:56, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep many reliable sources available. AdianPhy (talk) 17:29, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in reliable sources.  The article notes: "The Shaw Academy differentiates itself by focusing on live online education, teaching and human support. It offers 10 courses which include nutrition, marketing, photography and financial trading. It is recognized by various international organizations such as the International Compliance Association, Association of Chartered Certified Accountants, and the NCFE."  The article notes: "Irish online learning firm Shaw Academy is to create 40 jobs in the coming months as part of a global expansion. ... The Irish-owned business, which has just over 200 staff globally, provides live online learning globally. It is one of the largest live online skills educators on the planet, teaching over 55,000 new students per month in seven languages.  Courses include digital marketing, mobile app development and nutrition. Students who take the courses receive over ten hours of live learning."  The article notes: "Irish education technology company Shaw Academy is to create 40 jobs at its Dublin office in the next six months, and it is planning further expansion next year. ... The academy currently teaches about 55,000 new students each month, with courses available in everything from digital marketing and app development to nutrition and weight management. The courses are delivered in seven languages, with students attending “webinars”. Based in Dublin, it was set up almost four years ago by James Egan and Adrian Murphy, and has a number of offices around the world, including live e-learning centre at East Point in Dublin."  The article notes: "At online learning communities like the Shaw Academy, all courses are broadcast live by expert educators. Furthermore, an expert support team remains on hand throughout each live event to ensure that all questions asked actually receive an answer--in real time. This facility leads to a higher standard of education, and a higher success rate amongst students."</li> <li> The article notes: "Shaw Academy, based in Dublin, Ireland operates worldwide in a variety of languages, including Spanish, French, German, Italian, Russian and Portuguese, offers professional online higher education services. Their courses consists of live classes, subject material, replay recordings of modules and other additional content, all (apart from th live classes obviously) available 24/7. After the completion of the course and the online exam you will be awarded with an accredited Diploma. It is important to note that Shaw Academy has been approved by NCFE, CPD and other relevant international bodies that give accreditations to higher education institutions. They have also taught over 150 000 people already, and the ones that posted reviews are all satisfied with the courses they took and recommend Shaw Academy to others. Courses available at Shaw Academy include Photography, Financial Trading, Nutrition, Digital Marketing, and many others."</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Shaw Academy to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 02:06, 28 February 2016 (UTC) </li></ul> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">&mdash; <big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 03:01, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: Most of the sources provided and that I can find poorly contribute to notability. The coverage in The Huffington Post devotes one short paragraph plus a pros and cons list, which barely passes WP:CORPDEPTH. The coverage because the subject plans to hire 40 people is typical business/job seeker information that spans a few days, not indicating that the company is at least the center of attention in some part of the sources. While the news is of a national scope (see WP:AUD), the subject is based in Ireland's capital, meaning that it is more likely to receive more attention by national news than a company in a smaller Irish municipality. In addition, they sound like a promotion (see WP:SPIP). <span style="color: #33BBFF; font-family:Lato, monospace'">Esquivalience  t 19:41, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * "which barely passes WP:CORPDEPTH". Passes. "the subject is based in Ireland's capital, meaning that it is more likely to receive more attention by national news than a company in a smaller Irish municipality." It is not up to wikipedia to adjust guidelines based on where a company operates. Per WP:AUD, "at least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary" there are two national sources. Murry1975 (talk) 11:16, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep as being sourced enough to pass WP:GNG. VMS Mosaic (talk) 12:58, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, enough sources and WP is not paper. --Reinoutr (talk) 21:24, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep There's enough here notability wise - passes GNG. Good sources. 1:20, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The subject is notable, as is indicated by the citations, and by a look at the official website listed ("as featured on CNBC, Bloomberg", etc.). While the article itself may be a bit on the small side, it could become a viable entry with improvement. Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 22:19, 8 March 2016 (UTC)


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