Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shawn Hogan (darts player)


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The result was Delete-- Patar knight - chat/contributions 09:43, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Shawn Hogan (darts player)

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Provided sources only make passing mentions. Ran some searches, could not find any substantial sources. Only found one passing mention by The Guardian. Fails GNG, WP:SPORTCRIT, and the passing mentions are WP:ROUTINE. Jcmcc (Talk) 14:58, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Player has twice featured in a major darts event on the television, reaching the quarter-finals once. Sources mention his input in this. You only checked two out of the three sources as I've just fixed the other. Also, I can't find darts mentioned in WP:SPORTCRIT, but if it would be the same as other sports where the player must have played in a major event (which the World Cup is) then Hogan passes this. For example, the tennis section states they must have played in international team competitions. Hard to know for sure though since darts isn't even mentioned on the page. Spc 21 (talk) 15:09, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * FYI, WP:SPORTCRIT is the basic criteria for sportsmen. There is no specific guidance on Darts, but the primary point is that the subject has only ever received trivial coverage (as far as I can tell) and the sport itself is not notable enough to make its top players intrinsically notable. Showing up on television doesn't merit notability. If you can find a good, in-depth article that specifically talks about Shawn Hogan, that would go a long way in establishing notability. Right now as it stands, hes just a name in the crowd.. Jcmcc (Talk) 16:25, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * Comment. Darts is definitely notable enough in many countries to make its top players intrinsically notable. The question then is whether or not Hogan is a 'top player'. He represented South Africa, but SA is perhaps not a major darts nation. If this is an indication then he probably hasn't reached the level where inclusion in this encyclopedia is justified. --Michig (talk) 20:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  16:05, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete does not seem to have won any major competitions so let's just say that's a sign of possible notability and would qualify him as a "top player" since there's no guideline for darts. Rainbow unicorn (talk) 16:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Trouble finding significant coverage - maybe there's something in Afrikaans? However he made 4th in the world in the men's doubles one year.  Really need a flightologist's opinion.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:13, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

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