Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shawn Stiffler


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The result was Keep. King Jakob  C2 16:43, 15 June 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Shawn Stiffler

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Subject fails to meet notability as per WP:BIO, WP:WPBB/N and WP:NCOLLATH. References are all primary sources. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:16, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  07:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  07:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose Subject is a Division I college coach. These are notable, and indpendent sources exist. Billcasey905 (talk) 13:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Disagree Division I Coach does not meet notability criteria. News coverage is clearly routine. See WP:NCOLLATH. Just because someone exists and has been mentioned in the press as part of routine coverage of a broader topic, in this case college sports, does not make them notable. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment The the section header, language of the three criteria, and edit history all indicate to me that WP:NCOLLATH is geared much more heavily towards players than coaches, so I'm hesitant to use it as anything more than a loose guideline for this discussion.


 * Keep per previous WikiProjects' consensus (WP:CFB, WP:CBBALL) that Division I head coaches for football, men's basketball and baseball (current or historical) are notable. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:56, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:53, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep per Jrcla2's point. In general, I don't think sources are a great measure of notability for baseball coach articles (whether a journalist has decided to feature the coach shouldn't determine notability), especially when the coach in question has taken on his position so recently. (That said, he received a not insignificant amount of coverage with Keyes's death.) A compromise I'd be willing to explore is to use NCAA berths (and the media coverage that comes with them) as a mark of notability for mid-major and low-major coaches– single bids for present-day coaches and multiple bids for historic coaches. Kithira (talk) 03:52, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 18:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Head coach on a permanent basis of a Division I team in a major sport. By all rational standards that';s notability. (If he headremainedinterim coach, I would have said delete).  DGG ( talk ) 05:40, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
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