Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shawn Vulliez (3rd nomination)


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The result was Delete -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 16:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Shawn Vulliez (3rd nomination)

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Flash artist with no real notability of his own aside from the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny flash, no notable google hits aside from an extremely fleeting mention on wsj.com. Article consists entirely of OR, mostly added by Vulliez himself, who also. Article has only gotten worse with the OR since the previous AfDs, which hinged more on the notability of the "Ultimate Showdown" flash rather than the notability of the author himself. Krimpet 19:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - Using his real name to measure google hits is probably not the best way to do so. Perhaps his online aliases would be more effective, given the context of the matter at hand. Starghost (talk | contribs) 20:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - a notable artist. Central to the eBaum's World controversy; and The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny is one of the most notable examples of independent flash animation.  Vulliez is probably one of the top ten best-known independent flash animators, right up there with The Brothers Chaps and Jonti Picking.  If there are OR problems in the article, let's let the editorial process deal with them; this person is notable.  --Hyperbole 20:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The Brothers Chaps have plenty of articles in reputable news sources underlining their notability, and Picking's work has regularly aired on cable television. (I also disagree that searching for his real name is ineffective, since a reliable source would at least mention his name once.) On the other hand, there does not appear to be any concrete evidence of Vulliez's notability outside of his "Ultimate Showdown" flash, which itself is only really notable due to the associated song, not by him, charting on Dr. Demento's countdown. And his anti-eBaum's World flash doesn't appear to be notable outside of the Something Awful community. Krimpet 02:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless it can be shown that he has been the subject of multiple non-trivial works by reliable, independent sources.--Drat (Talk) 02:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. No indication that he meets the notability guideline. He's an internet guy, so there should be good sources online if he were notable.  I looked, but I couldn't find any non trivial mentions.-- Kubigula (talk) 02:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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