Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shayan Munshi


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Alpha_Quadrant    (talk)  15:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Shayan Munshi

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This was a proposed deletion that seemed borderline to me, so I objected. The given reason for the prod was: "Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:ENT." Munshi's been in a few films in supporting roles, but a quick search seems to show he is much better known for his involvement in the Jessica Lall trial. For the record, I'm a keep. Cmprince (talk) 14:03, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - per Cmprince, Munshi was barely notable in film but became notorious in the Lall trial. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:06, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - He acted in important roles, and major roles at least in two movies (Jhankaar Beats and The Bong Connection). Also, his involvement in Jesica Lall case is noteworthy. --Dwaipayan (talk) 13:35, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete/Merge? - I came across this article while working on unreferenced BLPs. I found the two references regarding the legal case but none to support his acting career as noteworthy - therefore I suggested "Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:ENT". Looking further maybe WP:BIO1E fits and it should be merged into Murder_of_Jessica_Lall? Regards, Ariconte (talk) 06:22, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Quite interesting. This fellow was officially declared a liar by the Delhi High Court in 2006 and 5 years later faced perjury charges. This shows us that he made a very bad decision and got caught. As it made the press and has coverage for an extended period, his legal problem is worth speaking about in the article. But that negative press should not detract from his already having met WP:ENT. My thought here is that despite the generally negative aspect of most of the 200+ sources speaking toward this fellow from 2005 to present, nearly all of the sources also give us decent information of the man and his career apart from the trial aspect. Meeting WP:ENT means his roles must be significant and the productions notable. If they are, then no matter the negative aspect of the sources, the career becomes verifiable. By way of a cogent example, the undoubtly notable Fatty Arbuckle had a great deal more negative press when arrested and tried for rape and murder... an event which put a big dent in his career. However, and in spite of that negativity and the BLP1E of Arbuckle's 3 manslaughter trials, his notability was found to exist both apart from and as part of that years-long legal issue. More cogent, is that Arbuckle is mentioned in the alleged victim's article, just as she is mentioned in his, and no need has been found to delete or merge either one into the other. In this AFD, and although Shayan's years-long notoriety bleeds over into almost all coverage of his acting, his acting is the a constant which is NOT a "one event".  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:12, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
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